Here are some of the lies World of Warcraft players believe about Final Fantasy XIV
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Ff14 sucks period. I tried it . Its a trash game not even close to wow atm where wow is at its weakest point
finally someone said it lol. Dragoon is so fast pace I love it. People hate on it is because they never played past level 40.
Wow player: "Nha FFXIV is Trash it has a 2.5 sec GCD"
FFXIV monk players: "Damn I need to refuel on redbull and coke I can't think fast enough to do a perfect rotation."
And endwalker is gonna fix some issues and gonna make class skills to be cast a lot faster , the experience for new players is gonna be a lot smoother
Wow’s engine is a lot older tho, even with new iterations, it’s still a different engine than what ff uses so any comparison, at all cannot be valid. However we as consumers can’t really know for sure, but it’s definitely a multivariable problem. I’m betting on that addons and weakauras are one of the biggest factors of the problem.
A lot people say FFXIV sucks becase 'anime/weeb game' but the game looks more western-themed than WoW itself and WoW is to the brim of anime references or ideas from Japanese games.
the myth started by r'players who quit before going past level 10, myself included. where you a handful of abilities that are on the gcd and only like one ability that is ogcd Example "jump" but also has a 10-20 second cd making the gameplay slower at lower levels. I did give ff14 another try and leveled to 80 and got some gear and yes, I will agree at max level the gameplay is much much faster. but at lower levels, till you hit around lv 25-30 is when the gameplay started to pick up for me I Started as lancer then dragoon all the way to 80 so I can say for certain dragoon starts off slow and picks up in gameplay around 25-30ish and at 80 its one the most fun classes for me aside from Gnb and Dk. I also sometimes enjoy Redmage but only if I'm in a lazy mood etc. but a lot of players don't make it past level 10 so to them the gameplay is slow since they don't make it to the end game to see the full potential of the class they chose.
tried both of these games as a new player for about a month each recently and i prefer wow way more, when playing ff i just got burned out more quickly altho i admit the community is 10x better
Another thing is, generally WoW is actually slower because of resource management.
If you're slapping buttons every chance you get, you'll drain your resource bar almost instantly, (not even talking about classes like Warrior that need to build it up to begin with), and you wind up standing around autoing.
If you're autoing in XIV, you fucked up. Period.
I play Ff14 and its not 2.5s
2.5s is the base with no stats thats doesnt exist.
Im still a low gear and low lvl player so my stats are at best 30% of max and my "GCD" is already at 1.94s
I mainly play RDM and MCH, and I'm always doing something. The idea that people have that you hit a button, and sit there and wait is pretty funny. If that was the case, no one would play.
Ok the bigger issue is that GCD is real at lower levels. Which is where most people fall off either because of that or ARR.
As a monk getting stuff on the ogcd I gotta be thinking like that Quicksilver scene in Xman.
In the leveling dungeon I got three buttons and one finger up my nose passing time.
I'm guilty as a ninja main over weaving in savage raids. But they have a 60 second "down time" window that allows for a small break before the reburst window. Love it
Lol, I play a bard. In bozja I have +12 haste gear and in the raid areas, specifically delubrum, I am non stop hitting buttons and dodging mechanics every fight. And I can't weave 2 ogcd skills efficiently because I'm 3k miles from the server and have +100 ping. My thumb never stops moving on my mmo mouse and I have 2 hot bars of skills to use.
To be fair, it would probably be similar the other way around, though this one misunderstanding keeps persisting I see.
Yes the GCD is about 2.5 Seconds, and yes it's terrible. At low Level that is, then the whole System makes sense with all those OGCDs and Movement. It's been very long, but I am pretty sure WoW isn't all that engaging in the early Levels either, doesn't matter if I can push my only 1-2 Abilities again faster
I prefer having an slowdt gcd rathen than having my whole jon be pressing 1 1 1 1 1 2 1 1 1 1 wich a lot of WoW classes are
the problem is, it's not totally wrong…because the beginning of FF is slow af (gameplay and story wise). and i think a lot of players don't want to invest a lot of time to get to the "fast" part. specially because most of them who try the game, try with the "this game sucks and it's slow" mindset and because of that they quit after a few hours.
First of all I also thought GCD would be a nightmare played BLM dint like it, but I unlocked RDM and I LOVE IT you are right about them, they are fast melee/Range class.
BUT the guy who said that 4:50 he is right bcs there is a number of limit number and action that you can do in sec and 2.5sec very good cause it will less likely create server lag (or instance raid/dung) cause look at diablo 3 playing with friends and in one party there is a huge lag just bcs server cant handle too many actions in the sec but 2.5sec is not nightmare as I thought its just fine if they every remove that i would be meh
In regards to having to rebuild the game from the ground up, if blizzard were smart, they would have been doing that years ago while releasing expansions or content simultaneously, so there’s no gap in between.
WoW GCD is fast, but their rotation is very shallow compared to FFXIV job.
WoW folks think they're playing something "fast", but you're pressing 1 button every 1.5 second. That's it. Everyone 1.5 second, you're pressing 1 button, and EVEN if you say you got 5 different buttons to "rotate", you're still only pressing, 1 button every 1.5 second. This means in a span of 20 second, you're pressing a 12 button combo every 20 second. That's it.
FFXIV jobs, even the slowest job DRG, you're pressing in a span of 20 second, pressing around 20 buttons in your opener, and in average until your next burst, you're still pressing 12+ buttons with your basic rotation and any oGCD that becomes available. And this is with the SLOWEST melee DPS in the game.
So I will say yes GCD in FFXIV is slow compared to WoW.
But my god you are WAY more busy in combat in FFXIV than WoW.
So better to say that FFXIV overall combat is busier than WoW's overall combat.
RDM main here, just wanted to clarify:
Yes, casting any spell triggers Dualcast, which makes our next spell an instant-cast. The Dualcasted spell, however, IS on GCD – but it affords us a chance to cast some of our OGCD stuff or even 'Slidecast', as another commenter pointed out. I'm usually using that downtime when my OGCD stuff is on cooldown to move this way or that, sometimes even assessing the group and see if I need to cast Verraise on my next Dualcast or not to keep the group up and running. That might just be a 'me' thing, but that brief window of downtime is easily filled with something else.
Say it louder for the neckbeards in the back!
It's pretty prevalent until you get into HW. ARR combat is pretty slow and is such a huge chunk to get through for some
There's a lot of horrible misconceptions WoW players believe about FF14 and I know because I used to be one of them. I played WoW for 15 years or more. I would've NEVER Tried FF14 had Asmongold not decided to try it on stream and I figured if someone like him is gonna try a game like FF14, there's no reason I shouldn't do the same considering you can try it for free and get hundreds of hours of playtime without spending a penny, if you wanted. That's when I discovered that half the shit people have said about FF14 over the years is just flat out wrong lol.
FF14 is so heavily inspired by WoW in a lot of ways, you can see it. It's blatantly obvious in a lot of ways and even YoshiP has said as much multiple times. YoshiP is a huge WoW fan himself. The whole GCD argument like you're discussing here is true, not to mention there's multiple jobs that get "haste" buffs baked into their abilities which means their GCD time is WAY lower than 2.5 seconds, more like 2 seconds. Now combine that much shorter GCD with the fact that as melee, you're having to hit your OGCD weaves, keep hitting your positionals if you have them, there's A LOT of room for min-maxing and really pushing yourself to parse higher, do better, etc. I played Fury Warrior in retail for years because I liked how high the APM was, always pressing a global for something, basically gcd-locked and you can't miss a single one.
Trust me when I say there's jobs in FF14 that will rival the APM of something like a Fury Warrior. No bullshit. And you're having to do that while dealing with intricate mechanics, movement checks, hitting positionals(as melee), etc etc. Every single WoW content creator who has made the effort to at least try out the game, is still playing it. Including WF raiders like Limit and Echo. That alone speaks volumes. Echo has been having a fucking blast with progression raiding over here. Same with Limit. They can't stop speaking positively about the game and a lot of them are like "Why didn't I know how good this game was sooner?".
"Press your GCD, Then press 2 oGCDs, Then press your next GCD"
cries in 800 – 1000 ping TuT
If they want to stay in their crap game so much, let them
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