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Thy Life is a Riddle, to bear Rapture and Sorrow.
To Listen, to suffer… to entrust unto tomorrow.
In one fleeting moment, from the land doth life flow…
In the same fleeting moment… though must live. Die. And KNOW.
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Hermes and nihilism … In my opinion Hermes cared to much for life, and the other Amouratines didn't. Herme's didn't think nothing had meaning, he believed that everything had meaning but was carelessly discarded when it was decided that the creation wouldn't fit into the greater world and would be unmade.
When Emet-Selch carelessly said "Who are you to decide whether we live or die," THAT prompted Hermes to put humanity to the test. He saw the Amourattines deciding the life of countless creatures that were found lacking. So, if humanity was lacking, by the Amouratines own belief, they should be discarded as well correct?
I'm proud to say I never doubted Hydaelyn. Things didn't add up to me when it came to Emet telling us that Zodiark and Hydaelyn were Primals, as we had known them to that point, because Hydaelyn's followers didn't have tempering effects and neither did Zodiark's followers. We came to learn why that was.
As for us being the Primal/Eikon killer, what was the main reason for us killing Primals? The main reason for killing Primals was because of their tempering abilities. That was part of the reason for killing Primals in the first place, especially after what happened when we initially faced Ifrit. It wasn't until later that we learned about he damage they could possibly cause through the Primal Leviathan.
For real, even though Emet gets a lot of kudos, I really love Venat. Her love for all her friends, family and people was the highlight of her story. The cutscene where she walks through and gets progressively more injured just wrecked me. I still can’t believe it’s the same VA who played Aveline in Dragon Age 2. ❤️🔥
fantastic video! your analysis was bang on. great discussion of the ramifications of a powerful cutscene.
While I got the impression that dynamis was something that WoL had used at some points during FFXIV, I wasn't really able to wrap my head around the concept enough to figure out when these instances using it would've taken place or how it concretely manifests. The theory of Limit Breaks being a manifestation of it sounds really plausible though, considering that canonically dungeons and such are meant to be life-threatening places that would've pushed WoL to their limits and beyond.
Though now that I'm writing this, I just realized that this begs one interesting question regarding our fight with Elidibus in 5.3. When he transformed, he said this: "If you would usher in the end, then with my all shall I oppose you… As the avatar of those mortal heroes who fought unfalteringly, in all their imperfection! As the Warrior of Light incarnate!"
And during the fight, he employs a Limit Break of his own against us. So by "all their imperfection", did Elidibus also imply the comparatively lesser Aether they had? If Limit Breaks are in fact a manifestation of dynamis, did he really use it against us in that fight?
Emet lost Hythlodaeus and Azem walked away from the convocation. Lost his two best friends and was left with an amnesiac (Elidibus) and a raving madman (Lahabrea) for centuries No wonder he turned out like he did. Grief and despair over time will wear down anyone, especially when you're alone.
And you were part right. She took two hits… the first was the loss of the 13th shard, I would presume and the second was sheilding you from Ultima. (Im guessing that because it was two hits she took, not 7 and Lahabrea said himself that she was weakened shielding her champion).
As for Zodiark. It wasn't that he was evil, he was nessicary…. but it was the ancients desire to abuse his power to remake the world which she wanted to prevent. Remember the scene where we first learned of Venat, they wanted to sacrifice more lives to make things how they were and bring back those who had been sacrificed the first time. She wanted to take the proverbial crutch away so that mankind could learn to live through the suffering and find meaning.
Despite everything that transpired (saw the whole main story through-out endwalker) I still have sympathy for Hermes in the world unsundered. He quite literally had no one to turn to so he had to create someone that would understand him.
I think the events depicted were just metaphorical. They didn't all happen within a few minutes of each other. We know that Hythlo was part of the initial sacrifice to create Zodiark. Some time passed after that, enough for a second sacrifice to restore life to the planet. Hyd was probably summoned about that time, then the battles started. Emet said that they fought a war before the world was actually sundered.
I just had a thought, and it's put much into fresh new perspective for me.
When we begin our journey in FFXIV, Hydaelyn tells us to 'vanquish the darkness'. Given Zodiark is associated with dark-aspected aether, we just naturally attribute her request to 'vanquish Zodiark and the Ascians'.
But what if she REALLY meant 'vanquish the darkness that lurks at the edge of the universe' – referencing Meteion and the weight of all that negative emotion weighing on her? Or even 'vanquish the darkness that lurks within you', given during that cutscene, she encourages us to, in effect, try and find 'light everlasting'. To live, to suffer… but to find joy and happiness all the same.
Thou must live, die and know….
I hope the Multiverse theory is validated, I'd love to see ff14 in a future expantion traverse the multiverse and interact will the universe of ff8, or any of the other ff games
I really love you left the interpretation and discussion in the video, thank you for that! It's always interesting to hear the thoughts different people have about these scenes and characters; and it would have been lost otherwise in the livestream VODs, thank you!
Speaking about Hermis nihilism I don't think few days memory whipe means much, yes information deleted is important, but it doesn't change his personality metion information just enforcis his personality. Just look at Emet-selch even after 12000 years his core personality is still the same.
I love the big setup to all of this in Elpis as well; all the quest names WERE the lyrics to Answers.
Remember venat speech when the song flow hits your gonna feel it more
as soon as Zodiark was released Fandaniel had us in checkmate.
1. Zenos eats Zodiark and the shield falls? Final Days
2. Zenos eats Zodiark but the shield stays? We are forced to kill Zenos (or he kills himself) and cause the Final Days
3. Fandaniel eats Zodiark and the shield falls? Final Days
4. Fandaniel eats Zodiark and the shield stays? We are forced to kill Fandaniel (or he kills himself) and cause the Final Days
5. Zodiark breaks free and without a heart goes on a rampage? We are forced to kill him
6. Zodiark breaks free and starts sucking up all the aether? We are forced to kill him
This cutscene was so deep & very well written. Your expressions with the ancients was exactly how I/we all felt. What makes it hit even harder is how we can all view both sides, on one we can be like the ancients wishing to have things back where problems didn't appear/exist at the time refusing to accept the current reality, on the other we are like Venat, knowing problems exist all the time & accepting them in order to move foward & try to create a better tomorrow.
The only thing that confuses me about this cutscene (If someone has any idea) is how did emet, Laha & Elidibus escape the sundering (especially emet seeing how close in the vicinity he was to Venat. Not even Azem got away and who knows what we were doing at the time.
What's sad is that the Ancients did have the potential to grow past their frailty. Azem rejected both Zodiark and Hydaelyn as solutions in favor of trying to find a different way. Gaia ended up rejecting Artemis' attempts to freeze time into a single moment of eternal happiness even after regaining her Ascian memories, and fought back so they could both move forward. Emet is practically the poster child for determination seeing as he spent those 12,000 years walking his path alone and suffering similarly to Venat, even slowly learning to value the sundered whether or not he let himself believe it after his son's death. Elidibus was the one who became Zodiark in the first place because he wanted to save his people, and was so determined to see his mission through even with his almost nonexistant memories that he was able to use LB as the Warrior of Light Primal, which puts Hermes' statement of the Ancients being unable to use Dynamis into question.
In fact, the whole point of Azem's incantation was to call upon his friends for assistance, meaning there were tons of people out there who were capable and determined that Azem befreinded the same way the WoL has the Scions and the people of Eorzea/Othard/Illsabard and beyond.
Remember. This is a weeb game.
Best cutscene ever
Hydaelyn basically limit broke all through history.
It hurts, man…it hurts real bad…
I was dumb to have ever doubted our Crystal Mom – she really had our back all this time. ;w;
Ever since this cutscene and the rest she has been my wifu lol as Azem I carry her minion whichever adventure I’ll go (I have thousands of hours of stuff to do starting from Omni 90)
It should have been obvious if people paid attention, that Zodiark was never going to be the big bad. Something created the final days for the Ancients that caused them to summon him. We were going to HAVE to face what that was, at some point. I've known this for over 6 years.