Krimson KB Reacts – The Nihilism of Hermes – FFXIV Endwalker MSQ



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16 thoughts on “Krimson KB Reacts – The Nihilism of Hermes – FFXIV Endwalker MSQ”

  1. I don't feel bad for Hermes, despite the sympathy the story is trying to make us feel for him. He says that Mankind does not deserve to live because of its careless disregard for the sanctity of the life that they create, and yet, he does the exact same thing. He creates untold thousands of a sentient being with untold empathic abilities, then sends them out into the cold and unforgiving darkness of space to make the long and solitary journey to other worlds. And then there is the flawed premise of his question: "What is the reason for living?" There are so many things wrong with such a question, but the biggest is the extremely moronic belief that there is only one answer in all of existence.

    And then there is Meteion. As Emet-Selch said, Hermes made no provisions for an unfavorable outcome. That doesn't even get to the callous disregard for her mental state by not even considering her coming across a planetary catastrophe or war. And the gestalt consciousness only compounded this as she encountered more and more dead or dying worlds. It's possible that many could have turned things around, but they all ended up perishing because Meteion hastened their demise regardless. Hermes deserves no sympathy, because he singlehandedly created what almost became the end of all life in the universe.

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  2. I knew she would have something to do with the Final Days the moment they mentioned her ability to manipulate Dynamis, because we already knew the Final Days was connected to it. The moment she started communicating with her other selves, I was like "Here it is." And then there was this moment for the final confirmation.

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  3. While Hermes did horrible things, I'll always feel bad whenever someone doesn't show the slightest shred of empathy towards him. It's oh-so-easy, calling someone names because they're trying to seek out answers to the unanswerable. Or rather, what they have arbitrarily decided has no answer. If we cannot find an answer to something, how can we know that there is none? And no one is apparently allowed to be anything less than content with their life, judging by certain reactions. Sure, Hermes shouldn't have aided Meteion in starting the Final Days, that much is a no brainer. His borderline depression doesn't enable that in any way. But I draw the line at people blaming him for trying to seek answers in any way. That lack of empathy is precisely how you push depressed people into committing to dumb courses of actions like how Hermes did, because they feel like no one is gonna make an effort to understand them until it's too late.

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  4. It's worth pointing out, what Hermes and Meteion are showcasing is fatalism, the idea that there is no meaning in life because everything is predetermined to end. Nihilism is actually the philosophy that is showcased in Shadowbringers as the concluded approach of the scions, that there is no meaning inherently in our lives thus we definevit ourselves. Neither philosophy is inherently bad, but the way they are concluded from shows an inherent bias towards pessimism and optimism that they respectively possess based on environment. With eitheris, the status quo and disposition of things leans heavily towards nihilism being the positive.

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  5. As painful as this was for our WoL how much worse do you think it would have felt if we'd somehow managed to become unsundered? All those memories of the past rushing forth and a desire to tell your friends in an effort to save them but knowing you couldn't as things were set in motion. Cause Emet cut and dry states that we look like their current Azem (even if due to our racial differences in size there are some variation to ourself) when we met at the beginning.

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  6. For all his faults, people forget that Hermes even at his lowest point didn't actually accept Meteion's despair and nihilism as opposed to Amon actively trying to bring it about. And though his definition of fair was skewed, he still gave humanity the chance to overcome the calamity and joined their side as opposed to going along with Meteion. It wasn't until Emet's retort that he actually broke and decided to hold mankind to the same standards it held all its creations to.

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  7. No, not "Poor Hermes"! This dude messed up with Meteion's design, and the question he wanted answered, but to then side with her after her resolution was to end all life made me lose all sympathy. Why? Because he got sad from killing his creations? The only Ancient with a conscience? It's a bit of a leap from "save the animals" to "destroying all life is the best way".

    This is where Endwalker started to lose me tbh. I liked Meteion until I found out this is her purpose in the story. Emet and Hythlo still best buddies though.

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