Stormblood has been a grind. There’s no sugarcoating it. Final Fantasy XIV has been a fantastic experience right up to this moment, but now I find myself stuck playing the worst FFXIV Expansion of them all.
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huh… I adored Stormblood. Not as much as I adore ShB, but… to each their own. lol
Guess no story can appeal to everyone.
Edit: A few specific responses, because it seems polite to do so… The snake people weren't involved in Doma because they didn't live near Doma. It would've made no sense for a race of people who live hundreds of kilometers away from Doma to be involved in Doma.
You have to remember, the reason you WENT to Doma in the first place was to help support them in order for you to distract the empire. Your actual goal was ALWAYS Ala Mhigo.
But yes, the Sun King is awful. Nobody likes him. He's meant to be unlikable.
For me, Lyse was actually great due to my own battle with mental health issues. At one point several years ago, I myself sort of lost who I was. My personality a bit shattered after certain events occured in my own life, it has taken all of this time (with still more to go, I feel) to really understand who I am again and to embrace that. Lyse for me was SE relating to my own struggles so watching her slowly become her own person was heartwarming
Lyse aside, I really liked the Azim Steppe in Stormblood for the diversity of tribes and background story, but I like to study cultures so… could be a bit of a bias of mine
Stormblood gets a lot better post 4.0 imo, i still liked it, but found Heavensward a lot better and then Shadowbringers takes the cake, both are pretty solid.
I hate it too but shadowbringers blow your mind out, it's amazing
Honestly overall Stormblood was… Meh, but I did enjoy the first half because I enjoyed the dumb of it all, it was goofy and had me laughing, but also if you knew more of the lore ahead of time, knowing about the Xeala and how a very small number of them were capable of wiping out Ishgard's army gave that "who are these badasses I can't wait to meet them" and them being a bunch of big dumb warriors was just frosting for me. (Also one of the best char arcs comes up later but, no spoilers)
Sadly the second half of Stormblood was…. Terrible…
Avoiding spoilers my main beefs were
1: Lyse is shoved down your throat until you choke on her, they want you to like her so bad you just end up hating her, she never gets better because instead of developing her they shoved her in your face and said "I hope you choke on this"
2: Pretty much every single Ala Mhigan you've ever met are massive assholes, and even before their plight they were a nation of massive arrogant assholes (honestly kinda got their just deserts with the Empire takeover) so it's very very hard to give a single crap about their "plight" so you go through the entire arc with a big who cares because all the people you are fighting for are HUGE DICKS
I liked Yda more than Lyse. Yda had great airhead charm to her. Going into Lyse seemed so sudden and transitionless.
So a note that no one has brought up in my brief glance across the comments: Lore wise unfortunately a united front in Othard would not work just in terms of physical distance… Othard is the equivalent of East Asia, with Kugane being japan, and Eorzea/Gyr Abania (where Ala Mhigo story line is) is all the way in the Americas. The made a big deal about Gosetsu making it to us in the first place and our journey there a big deal as well.
There's plenty on the narrative reasons why they choose to do it that way, just wanted to let you know they were being consistent with the in game cohesive world.
I hate ruby sea but after that its good. Lyse is a mix bag of good and bad, she kinda imature impulsive but she has the heavy task to find a way to free her people. Ala migo area start slow but developy real good. The pace must feel strange but if u are play patch by patch when it was lauch must have feel diferent.
You finisht a part, save Ala Mihgo is the main reason. why should it end here ?
Oh, I've been in this place and it took me 2 years and playing through it again with an alt to give the SB MSQ another chance.
The big problem is, the devs tried to emulate a 2-front war here, so you basically have 2 storylines with their own "minor" villain and an overarching plotline with a big main villain. Add to that Lyse who lost her family back when the Garlean empire took over her home, but was whisked away and sheltered, so she is completely out of touch with the plight of her people. She is an idealistic teenager with 0 leadership experience and the only time she gets to be herself and breathe is literally when she's doing chores for this small Au'ra tribe. Problem is, that doesn't really make her likable or relatable, because every time she opens her mouth on political matters you want to slap her for being a moron. But, yeah, teenager…
I feel like the development team has bitten off a lot more than they could chew with this ambitious project and thus spread themselves too thin. They also set up a lot for the later story, yet again, but that stuff will only really make sense when you get to 5.4 and 5.5. All I can say is that Stormblood is more of a prelude than anything else and the sad thing is, the player feels it. You want more, because it's a slow build-up to something way bigger. A partially clumsy and tedious build-up with an elusive, over-the-top main villain…
On the Sun tribe: This is peak Asian trope writing. The tyrannical, arrogant leader who thinks his clan better than all others. He's not there to be likable, he's a rival and a power fantasy, solely there to be taken down and humbled by the main character.
I agree. At the same point in the story. First ff14 playthrough. Started about 2 weeks ago I think. Maybe a little longer. I just can not grab stormblood. I could not stop playing the first 2 parts. HW was fenominal, but this is not of that same level. Far from it. I find myself bored, playing other stuff inbetween. And I am used to grinding with 35 years gaming experience. Hope to reach the next dlc soon. My friends warned me for this one not being that good. Also I find myself a lot of times quite lonely. Not a lot of players in the area. Shame. I am really loving my experience with this game sofar
Gotta say I did feel stormblood was a slog to play through at times. And the Doma plotline was far more interesting. But I gotta disagree with your opinion on "lord whats his name. leader of the sun people".
He does look down on others, and he does feel his bloodline gives him superiority. But he begins to soften up as he sees the deeds of the warrior of light and company. And he even has a very cute rivalry going on with the onyx skinned lady leader of the other tribe. I guess it would be impossible to really notice those kinds of things if you skip past his dialogue and cutscenes tho. Like, if you skipped all of alphie's parts in heavensward because you didnt like him would you ever have seen him improve?
i understand not wanting to hear him talk as his first impressions are rather insufferable. But thats part of storytelling, especially in FFXIV. Character growth is usually handled very well in this game and rarely will a hated character stay hated for long if you watch, wait, and pay attention.
If you hate Magnai I cannot WAIT for 4.4. XD
I agree with most of your comments, the pacing on SB falls flat and I feel like it would have been better if they'd taken the split storylines and actually made them different expacs so that each of them could have gotten more in-depth attention.
You do realize that there's an huge continent of the Empire between Ala Mhigo and Doma, right? So having the Ala Mhigan help Doman to attack the Doma Castle is logistically, strategically, and tactically asinine. That is why they only deploy a small force (you and the scions) to be the conduit in order to manage an attack in two fronts forcing the Empire to spread their forces thin. The Empire realize they cannot fight in two fronts, so they gave up Doma and Ala Mhigo in a strategical retreat. You have to talk to the "snake people" to make sure they won't summon a primal while you push into Ala Mhigo. It seems you have missed a lot of these details because you choose to skip stuffs. However, I do I agree that the pacing sucks, but the details are important.
You're absolutely right there was problems with the pacing, trying to split the expansion between two nations makes everything feels too forced. I do feel some of your complaints are coming a little too early (similar to ARR) but your critiques are pretty much in line with my thoughts.
Lyse is a bit of a meme, there were frequent comparisons with ARR Minfilia on who is the worst character. They don't properly develop her character for the role she takes on. Lyse obtains a position of power in a way that feels inherently unsatisfying… her dad was a leader of the resistance, so she becomes the leader via familial lineage. This is a problem because she consistently says she wants to earn things on her own merits. In addition to that, once Lyse IS forced into a position of leadership, she basically does nothing leadership worthy. She just… keeps acting like herself, being aggressive, attacking stuff head on instead of learning the important thing about leadership… delegating, ordering, caring for the larger scope. She gets her "training arc" so to say in liberating Doma, but it doesn't feel EARNED, and she doesn't get that much better after, especially as we have seen far more effective and competent people in positions of leadership such as Raubahn, Merlwyb, Tataru and Aymeric who actually show how it should be done.
Azim Steppes is kind of polarizing, because it's entirely its own thing, and is just kinda a stepping stone to freeing Doma. I personally liked the zone but it's more "lets learn of the Au Ra." moment. It is too bad you're kind of skipping stuff, because Sadu is pretty great even if Magnai is a douche, which is actually the crux of the plotline in the steppe.
The MSQ is considered rough up to 4.0… but I'll let it speak for itself.
Didn't hear your opinions on Zenos… but I stan for Zenos, I actually like him alot for many reasons.
Stormblood has taken me so much more time to get through than the other expansions. I have had to take so many breaks to get through Stormblood and I'm at Patch 4.3 atm and it is so trash. This is the worst experience I have had so far. Don't get me started on all the stupid cop-outs it makes the whole story so pointless.
I'm disagree. Don't know how you forgot about Ala Mhigo when attacking Castle. After arriving in Kugane we know – this is war on two frontlines. And to achieve victory – you need to win on BOTH lines.
I don't think too many people will argue with you about 4.0's MSQ. It does get better – much, much better, but compared to what comes before and after… It defiantly falls short.
Every time you keep saying is "doesn't that feel like the end"? I kept yelling NO. Like we didn't defeat the big bad, the whole thing has been about a war on two fronts…we won in one of them. Like that only feels like the end if you completely ignore Ala Mhigo and the whole impetus for this journey in the first place. Like it's fine not to like Stormblood, this just felt like a really….off…way to phrase those complaints.
Lyse is the worst.
The Steppe's and Magnai were great.
Coming from an ethnicity with the history of being colonized, I was personally very invested in Stormblood, more so than Heavensward even. I saw a lot of parallels of people from my history, like Fordolah and Yotzuyu, and really had a lot of thoughts about it.