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Today on PlayFrame: The conclusion of Eureka! No, I still haven't gone in to experience it, I'm scared! And I'm all out of crossover events to ramble about in its stead, because the NieR crossover isn't available until after you finish Shadowbringers!
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I guess I'll make a request that any Culinarians in the Playfriends bake our boy Durmin some extra cookies for the Christmas season? I'm really running out of non-Eureka things to talk about that I have done and can thus talk about with some manner of confidence without also spoiling upcoming MSQ stuff for those viewers experiencing it solely through Dan and Durmin.
In that case, I suppose next time we finally properly wrap up Eureka – this isn't good, I'm running out of conversation topics! I'll need to find something else to ramble about that other people haven't already rambled about!
But that's a problem for future me, not current me, so may you all have a nice day and maybe some choco chip cookies!
(if I'm somehow the first comment on this episode, cool! I do not particularly care!)
Now glad that in my playthrough I selected Ejika’s path. My decision was based partially as an in character thing for Gen and also in guessing which route Dan would pick for Durmin. And I was right! o7
yaaay thank you for showing all of Eureka!! 😀
"Let's wait for better weather"
red skies being torn apart by explosions
Yeah, sounds about right
The end of Eureka is here: will Durmin and Krile save the students? Will Ejika finally learn how to be nice to people? Will Krile make Durmin do any more waiting?!
Find out on FFXIV Z!
next episode: Durmin /actually/ gonna get a relic weapon :o?!??!?!
With Eureka contained for now lets touch upon how it fits generally into FF14 lore and previously encountered foes, one in particular comes to mind. Eureka grants Ejika a weapon suspiciously similar to one the one wielded by Odin. Now I do not believe that Durmin has encountered FFXIV Odin, however, he has some of the most fun lore in the game.
Spoilers for Odin lore
There are two versions of Odin that you can fight in the game, a FATE that launched with 2.0 and a trial that was made available at the end of ARR. I will start with the FATE, who is bonkers hard and is the only FATE that can actually get harder over time as it levels up everytime its defeated up to level 70. He can spawn in any zone in the Black Shroud and changes the weather of the whole zone to Tension. But the truly special part is that the player character who deals the lethal blow to Odin becomes the next Odin. The character model of Odin riding a horse is a player character model and by default its an old Elezen man, but upon defeat it changes to match the player character who last defeated him.
The trial version adds clarity to why this happens, during that small questline its determined that the actual Odin is not the primal but the sword that Odin wields Zantetsuken is, the last person to defeat Odin claiming the weapon and being tempered anew. That sounds suspiciously similar to the weapons that Eureka forges, it has never been explicitly confirmed in game if Eureka was the source of Odin, but I love how that ties in so cleanly, and it is a great new Archetype of enemies that can exist in FFXIV, sentient dangerous weapons.
I can't even imagine what the 'doozy of a thing' is when you've finished the main plot of Eureka…
When Dan says this content takes a loooong time to get through, he's really not kidding. The last time I went through all this content (also alongside the Dantalus Theater Company, but without powerleveling), I played Eureka so often for so long, I started hearing Eureka music *in my dreams*.
Playfriends, it's time to storm the cast- Wait. This is a short episode. Uh. I guess we're not storming the castle. Time for a fateful decision? This is your spoiler free lore comment.
Ah, the good ol' "Disable to restraint to stop someone else from disabling the restraint in a bad way" ploy. Why does it always come down to something like this?
I'm noting that, which the existence of Eureka (the eikon) and its study has resulted in this archive in Galuf's office. How distant did he keep Krile to prevent her from knowing any of this? How many members of the Students of Baldesion were engaged in this research? Or did Galuf and his initial students who founded the order keep this to themselves? Did Galuf hide his secrets in plain sight, mixed among the other tomes here, or were these items pulled from a secret location due to the emergency?
Emmerololth has been confirmed to not be any simple minion of the Ascians, but one of the major baddies, equivalent to Nabriales. Which marks another Ascian slain. Four of the supposed immortals have been permanently slain, all within a very short time span. From the Ascian perspective, they're dropping like flies.
6:00 – When all seemed at risk, Galuf Baldesion didn't entrust the fate of the world to his fellow scholars in Sharlyan. He entrusted it to the Scions of the Seventh Dawn. Perhaps he knew his daughter would be with them, and the most likely people to have delved this place were the surviving Students of Baldesion, likely aided by the Scions. But it speaks volumes that, when the doomsday clock approaches midnight, he sought out the Scions. At the time, he had no way of knowing that the group would be scattered by the Bloody Banquet at Ul'Dah. Durmin wasn't the Hero of Ishgard, or the Liberator of Doma and Ala Mhigo. Maybe he heard about the Champion of Eorzea, or maybe he knew nothing of the little snack mage in their ranks. But he placed the responsibility on Durmin's tiny shoulders, and it's time to step up to the challenge.
10:55 – It's a heck of a thing to bluff an eikon. I feel like Ejika profoundsly underestimates the risk of tempering that comes with an eikon. Just last patch members of the Scions helped the Ala Mhigan resistance to kill their own people who were enthralled by Sri Lakshmi.
I do like Krile's route here. There is no time pressure, no immediate threat. Ejika can spend the rest of his life finding an alternative, or optimizing his sacrifice. Choosing certain death now, when there is nothing pressing, seems like madness. Should something come up later, he can always commit to that route then. We'll discuss the differences in the two routes next time.
Next time: We actually finish Eureka and storm a castle?
Just started, but uh. Does the Eureka block look like a companion cube to anyone else
Honestly, watching this LP (I'm experiencing FF14 from this LP) I've had my ups and downs with some of the FF14 content, but mostly I've been ok with all the approaches they've made thus far, even if I personally dislike some parts, I understand why and respect the creators' intentions.
This whole sidequest, however, I thought it was terrible. Not the story, lore or characters by themselves; but the fact that this story was told through months and months of grinding, where you have to level up quite a few levels for each mission that only amounts to "go look for some magicite and report back" the time-wasting FFXI mechanics (even if they're toned down from the original games), absolutely no extra content to motivate you to level up other than intentional grinding (if you played FFXI at least you would be discovering the world on your own, do your own sidequests, etc. not only grinding and that's it), and how little they give you in terms of story for each mission or give you any satisfaction to the fact that you have grinded so much (like some boss as a wall to overcome, or some dungeon, something to feel good about having leveled so much, if there weren't requirements you could complete this quest without leveling at all), and all to end in such an anticlimatic way (I guess the Ejika route will be a little less, but whatever), it feels like the most time-wasting stuff I've ever seen. And because this is tied to a plot that was teased a lot in the ARR patches, it tricks you to think this is a must-see, so seeing it's both plot-wise and gameplay-wise such a waste of time makes it all the more infuriating, that some people may endure it expecting to have their time worth.
Honestly, I'm kind of offended they included this as real content for the players just to make them busy until the next patch, it feels like an insult to their player base, and I feel like if Dan had skipped it nobody would miss it. And I feel like that without even having played it! The one who suffered was Dan, I'm amazed for his dedication, so I'll take it as "he endured it so nobody else has to" and now if someone is curious they can just watch it in this LP in a few hours, so thanks for all your effort Dan.
– no Krile, you free the Primal AFTER you turn on all the security measures
– well yeah Krile, that's the whole point of an ambush, you time it for inconvenient times for the prey of said ambush. C'mon you're a scholar you should know this
– i was expecting a regular fight but Ejika doing the right thing is good too
That "{sort of…)" at the start carries a lot of weight.
Lalafell WoLs are fun when you find yourself in a story where the main characters are also lalafell. Tiny crew, ho!
It's hard to get across just how badarse Ejika is in this moment. The sword of Odin, a similar bauble from Eurika, has possessed would be hero after would be hero. And yet Ejika is able to even contemplate turning the blade on Eurika to destroy it.
Next time: the Baldesion Arsenal awaits! Although the specifics of Eureka are unique, such as the elemental buffs, I do like how you can see what they incorporated from it into future content, such as the ShB stuff that I’m not mentioning by name for spoiler reasons.