Shadowbringers is probably one of the best video game stories I'll ever experience and it really made me care about all the characters that I didn't care about previously.
ffxiv is a good game to play through once. unfortunately i don't find myself engrossed in it all that much past my initial playthrough. i don't find its actual gameplay loops all that rewarding or fun.
that being said, its music is an absolute banger. the best music out of any MMO on the market.
I actually got through ARR in about roughly a months time. Not because I liked it, but because my friends hyped up the expansions so much that it actually motivated me to get through it faster as I played. It's pretty boring, but I'd say my friends helped make it more enjoyable, sure you're not going to be doing every mission with friends, hell you probably won't do any period until later on but they can help you keep more interest in the game as you play.
Honestly at this point the weight of naysayers about ARR has become too much. It's not quite as bad as the sheer quantity of the consensus would suggest – it's just mediocre compared to all its expansions.
I'm so glad to hear your opinions on this, I love this game dearly, I've been playing since ARR was our only option and even back then I struggled to get through what was an entirely different game. But every expac has hooked me and been an absolute blast! Just finished EW a couple of days ago and am super looking forward to the savage raids in a couple'a weeks. Hope you continue having fun, and hey, maybe I'll bump into ya sometime!
as an ff14 vet myself, we always tell ppl "it gets better after 50, it gets better after ARR we promise" which is true but it also does suck someone has to put in so many hours now to get there. for the time being and the circumstances the dev team were under, ARR was great. it just hasn't stood the test of time. i'm hoping now that the current saga/storyline is concluded it will allow new players to join in at a different part (without having to buy a story skip)
Scott what DC/server do you play on? Would be cool to run into you sometime on Crystal, and we have to see your cat boy. I just feel like that's what you'd play.
This is exactly how I feel about Naruto. It took me four years to watch all of it, and the fillers and flashbacks were terrible. But when you get to the good parts, its elevated by how long it took to get there and how much better it is compared to other parts. You really do feel like you earned watching the good parts.
I agree, A Realm Reborn is a slog bit all the expansions make you appreciate the story of that more because you retroactively understand more of what was going on
Honestly this game has been permanently ruined for me by a friend who literally won't shut the fuck up about it. I like Final Fantasy X and 7. Based on THAT ALONE, he thinks I can "get past" my absolutely burning hatred for the way MMO's play and "really enjoy 14". And he kept recommending it. And recommending it. And recommending it. And recommending it.
He constantly jerks it off and spouts videos and gameplay trying to convince me it doesn't play like an MMO, and then I look at it and it's just another MMO. He even made DND characters in my homebrew campaign directly based on characters from this game. I have not withheld my agitation about this either. I have told him time and time again to stop bringing this game up because it's gotten fucking intrusive at this point. And he keeps doing it
Well sorry, I'm never touching this fucking game. Better luck next time I guess. You lost me.
Honestly the MSQ gameplay doesn't get better after ARR. The story getting better just makes the inane grind more palatable. As someone who doesn't care about the story, Shadowbringers and Endwalker were just as painful as ARR – it still all boils down to right click npc, aetheryte, mount up, move half a zone slow as fuck because you don't have flying, right click npc, watch/skip cutscene, repeat as necessary. I have well over 100 hours in-game and only last night did I do something fun for the first time in the game ever, that being the first extreme of Endwalker.
Final Fantasy 14 has a lot of cool elements to it, but I do think its overhyped. That change that you describe, I didn't feel moving into the expansions. I made it to lvl 70, into the third expansion before I stopped and I was forcing myself through it. The main big storyline is interesting, but all the block filler in between is terribly boring, and u still teleport from closed area to closed area just talking to npcs, barely moving about the world unless u gotta get the orbs to unlock flight.
Its got great set design, incredible music, flashy jobs (classes) that look cool until u realize a lot of them are kinda mirror classes/copy pasted structures of each other with slight differences and different graphics. Its got amazing dungeons with set music, and raids with cinematic intros. But I honestly feel for me at least it gets bogged down by trying to be a story game that has to also be an MMO which makes it have way more filler in between.
Not to mention, like u said, u have to get through a realm reborn first, and no one should be asked to have to sit through 20+ hours of any game to start to enjoy it.
I loved the start of the game but quit as soon as it forced me to do dungeons with other people…but I kinda set myself up for that playing a mmo I guess
Correct, players should treat ARR as the start of a single player RPG. Don't expect anything spectacular based on the 10-15+ years of experiences from other MMO. I personally did not find it boring as that was exactly my expectation when I went into the game.
Funny seeing this, a friend of mine recommended this to me a few months back and ended up quitting in the midst of that first realm. I keep on reading that the game makes every hour worth it once you get to the expansions and it just makes me sad
guild wars 2 has always been my go to because there's something for everyone, and its all pretty well done. and the inital levelling process is the most fun part of the game imo.
FFXIV has so many moments that no game has, and for that I still would recommend everybody to play it, your 80 hours in ARR will NOT be wasted what so ever!
If you REALLY want a VERY fun MMO that is NOT subscription based, try Guild wars 2, the BASE GAME is now free and there is 2 soon to be 3 expansions and it is REALLY fun, as one reviewer said, "It breaks a lot of the OLD MMO barriers" in a good way
Reminds me of trying to recommend One Piece to people. It's a good story that's been going on for a while, but it has 1000 episodes or 1000 chapters. It's so daunting to approach but having passed the entry you can really appreciate it
I've gotten into FF14 relatively recently. September. I'm in post Stormblood. Personally, I thought that ARR wasn't bad. Compared to the Heavensward it's nowhere near as good. The trouble for A Realm Reborn that I can reason is that they had A LOT to establish compared to the expansions, so the story is slow and drug out because it has to stop and establish so much.
Limsa, Gridania, Ul'dah, Ishgard somewhat. The leaders of each nation, as well as the leader of the Garleans in Eorzea. What's a Primal, why's that bad? Scions of the Seventh Dawn? What's their deal? Who are these douchebags? What in the hell is an Ascian? What's up with these crystals? All of this basically needs established, and then at the same time you need to build up the player character's strengths and increase the stakes over time. Something like Heavensward instead can focus on the results of what happens from A Realm Reborn, as well as its primary… four, max, things it explores. Ishgard and its society, dragons and their culture, how those two interact from it, and the leftovers from A Realm Reborn.
raids in ffxiv its super good but I think you just played the alliance raids and you thought its bad you have to play normal raids its good and have a good story
This is exactly how I feel about warframe. Yes second dream was an amazing quest but game wise doesn't happen soon enough for me to even recommend it
Yes Scott, which is why I subbed to Jenn and not to you. 🤣
Shadowbringers is probably one of the best video game stories I'll ever experience and it really made me care about all the characters that I didn't care about previously.
ffxiv is a good game to play through once. unfortunately i don't find myself engrossed in it all that much past my initial playthrough. i don't find its actual gameplay loops all that rewarding or fun.
that being said, its music is an absolute banger. the best music out of any MMO on the market.
Nothing happening in dbd except snowman outfits that tank a hit from the killer…..
I swear, every content creator I like randomly comes out and says they also play xiv LMAO
So wild to think I could have randomly played with some of my favorite content creators in dailies.
when the game takes 100 hours to get good!!!!!
honestly the title of this video is how i feel about sea of thieves, pretty good game but theres a lot of bs you have to be prepared to deal with
I actually got through ARR in about roughly a months time. Not because I liked it, but because my friends hyped up the expansions so much that it actually motivated me to get through it faster as I played. It's pretty boring, but I'd say my friends helped make it more enjoyable, sure you're not going to be doing every mission with friends, hell you probably won't do any period until later on but they can help you keep more interest in the game as you play.
Honestly at this point the weight of naysayers about ARR has become too much. It's not quite as bad as the sheer quantity of the consensus would suggest – it's just mediocre compared to all its expansions.
I'm so glad to hear your opinions on this, I love this game dearly, I've been playing since ARR was our only option and even back then I struggled to get through what was an entirely different game. But every expac has hooked me and been an absolute blast! Just finished EW a couple of days ago and am super looking forward to the savage raids in a couple'a weeks. Hope you continue having fun, and hey, maybe I'll bump into ya sometime!
as an ff14 vet myself, we always tell ppl "it gets better after 50, it gets better after ARR we promise" which is true but it also does suck someone has to put in so many hours now to get there. for the time being and the circumstances the dev team were under, ARR was great. it just hasn't stood the test of time. i'm hoping now that the current saga/storyline is concluded it will allow new players to join in at a different part (without having to buy a story skip)
How tf do I even make an account to play it
Have been saying for a while that it watch you play ff
600 Hours of XIV and Lahabrea is still a lame unsundered.
Scott what DC/server do you play on? Would be cool to run into you sometime on Crystal, and we have to see your cat boy. I just feel like that's what you'd play.
This game doesn't have like a subscription tho right ? like GW2 ?
This is exactly how I feel about Naruto. It took me four years to watch all of it, and the fillers and flashbacks were terrible. But when you get to the good parts, its elevated by how long it took to get there and how much better it is compared to other parts. You really do feel like you earned watching the good parts.
I agree, A Realm Reborn is a slog bit all the expansions make you appreciate the story of that more because you retroactively understand more of what was going on
I was really enjoying the game until I reached the quests to reach heavensward…. I quitted there
Honestly this game has been permanently ruined for me by a friend who literally won't shut the fuck up about it. I like Final Fantasy X and 7. Based on THAT ALONE, he thinks I can "get past" my absolutely burning hatred for the way MMO's play and "really enjoy 14". And he kept recommending it. And recommending it. And recommending it. And recommending it.
He constantly jerks it off and spouts videos and gameplay trying to convince me it doesn't play like an MMO, and then I look at it and it's just another MMO. He even made DND characters in my homebrew campaign directly based on characters from this game. I have not withheld my agitation about this either. I have told him time and time again to stop bringing this game up because it's gotten fucking intrusive at this point. And he keeps doing it
Well sorry, I'm never touching this fucking game. Better luck next time I guess. You lost me.
Honestly the MSQ gameplay doesn't get better after ARR. The story getting better just makes the inane grind more palatable. As someone who doesn't care about the story, Shadowbringers and Endwalker were just as painful as ARR – it still all boils down to right click npc, aetheryte, mount up, move half a zone slow as fuck because you don't have flying, right click npc, watch/skip cutscene, repeat as necessary. I have well over 100 hours in-game and only last night did I do something fun for the first time in the game ever, that being the first extreme of Endwalker.
I was really hoping you would close the B-roll and just have the game open to a 5000 queue
Final Fantasy 14 has a lot of cool elements to it, but I do think its overhyped. That change that you describe, I didn't feel moving into the expansions. I made it to lvl 70, into the third expansion before I stopped and I was forcing myself through it. The main big storyline is interesting, but all the block filler in between is terribly boring, and u still teleport from closed area to closed area just talking to npcs, barely moving about the world unless u gotta get the orbs to unlock flight.
Its got great set design, incredible music, flashy jobs (classes) that look cool until u realize a lot of them are kinda mirror classes/copy pasted structures of each other with slight differences and different graphics. Its got amazing dungeons with set music, and raids with cinematic intros. But I honestly feel for me at least it gets bogged down by trying to be a story game that has to also be an MMO which makes it have way more filler in between.
Not to mention, like u said, u have to get through a realm reborn first, and no one should be asked to have to sit through 20+ hours of any game to start to enjoy it.
I loved the start of the game but quit as soon as it forced me to do dungeons with other people…but I kinda set myself up for that playing a mmo I guess
Not gonna lie I just got past ARR and I had to skip every scene because of how boring it is. Unfortunately I stopped but I may come back one day
Sounds a bit like SWTOR where you are the main character of a story and also there are other people in some areas.
Correct, players should treat ARR as the start of a single player RPG. Don't expect anything spectacular based on the 10-15+ years of experiences from other MMO. I personally did not find it boring as that was exactly my expectation when I went into the game.
Funny seeing this, a friend of mine recommended this to me a few months back and ended up quitting in the midst of that first realm. I keep on reading that the game makes every hour worth it once you get to the expansions and it just makes me sad
guild wars 2 has always been my go to because there's something for everyone, and its all pretty well done. and the inital levelling process is the most fun part of the game imo.
Throughout the first minute of this video I kept saying to myself ‘so literally just destiny 2’
FFXIV has so many moments that no game has, and for that I still would recommend everybody to play it, your 80 hours in ARR will NOT be wasted what so ever!
This is far from a "single player game played occasionally with friends" but I suppose your entitled to this opinion
The ShadowBringers theme is the BEST soundtrack
Save 9 minutes of your life.
The beginning is boring, but it gets better later. Thanks
You can do AAR in 2 days.
If you REALLY want a VERY fun MMO that is NOT subscription based, try Guild wars 2, the BASE GAME is now free and there is 2 soon to be 3 expansions and it is REALLY fun, as one reviewer said, "It breaks a lot of the OLD MMO barriers" in a good way
Reminds me of trying to recommend One Piece to people. It's a good story that's been going on for a while, but it has 1000 episodes or 1000 chapters. It's so daunting to approach but having passed the entry you can really appreciate it
I've gotten into FF14 relatively recently. September. I'm in post Stormblood. Personally, I thought that ARR wasn't bad. Compared to the Heavensward it's nowhere near as good. The trouble for A Realm Reborn that I can reason is that they had A LOT to establish compared to the expansions, so the story is slow and drug out because it has to stop and establish so much.
Limsa, Gridania, Ul'dah, Ishgard somewhat. The leaders of each nation, as well as the leader of the Garleans in Eorzea. What's a Primal, why's that bad? Scions of the Seventh Dawn? What's their deal? Who are these douchebags? What in the hell is an Ascian? What's up with these crystals? All of this basically needs established, and then at the same time you need to build up the player character's strengths and increase the stakes over time.
Something like Heavensward instead can focus on the results of what happens from A Realm Reborn, as well as its primary… four, max, things it explores. Ishgard and its society, dragons and their culture, how those two interact from it, and the leftovers from A Realm Reborn.
"Pray return to the Waking Sands" – thank you, I prefer to let Deathslinger spear me.
I would consider FF14 more of an "MORPG" than an MMO. That said I'm having the time of my life playing. It's all I want to play all the time.
"If you're not looking for a story driven RPG you shouldn't play this game."
T H A N K Y O U.
After EW youre gonna reccomend the 80 hour just because it gets too fucking good to pass on.
raids in ffxiv its super good but I think you just played the alliance raids and you thought its bad you have to play normal raids its good and have a good story