Finally, peacetime chores!
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Oh boy, I know enough about fiction to know how this is going to play out.
Speaking of playing out, how is everyone's weekend?
Aaand that's the moment I went from disliking to despising all inclusions of Emmanellain in the story
Surely there must have been better ideas to set a character progression than the shooting of an unarmed protester
It's Monday, Playfriends! Durmin's got some work to do. Peace isn't all about kissing babies and shaking hands. This is your spoiler free lore comment.
While there may be an armistice between Ishgard and Dravania, a formal peace agreement is what's needed to end the Dragonsong War. Falcon's Nest was near the "front line" of the war, which makes it an easy place for both sides to convene, but will also bring its own baggage. Those who reside there did not live in security in the Holy See, behind the wards of the Steps of Faith, but in fear of Dravanian assault. The Convictors aren't the only ones who are having a hard time letting go of 1000 years of war, hate, and propaganda.
Unfortunately, the poison affects all players the same. I guess being famous means your enemies know the right dosage, regardless if you're a lalafell or roegadyn.
24:13 – This is, obviously, the wrong choice.
25:30 – And this is a worse one, from both of them.
Thancred is, however, wrong. This could be much worse. There could've been a riot, or a full blown rebellion.
36:25 – Thancred has not… quite… learned to live with it. You can tell the specter of recent failure is fueling a lot of Thancred's emotional actions.
I can't remember if I've noted this before:
Stefano Braschi, of Waterloo Road, as Emmanellain
The late Archie Lyndhurst, of So Awkward, as Honoroit
I had a few choice words for that protester when I played this part. None of them involved arrows.
That protester was the WORST. At 35:04, Emmanellain was right. Like boohoo, your pain isn't more valid than anyone else's and you don't have the right to drag everyone else down you with your misery
And here we see… When the WoL's drinking PTSD starts to set in.
Oh, this is the moment mentioned yesterday in the coments, leading to the hero never accepting food again, unless he saw it prepared.
i started playing this game few weeks ago … i cannot stop myself from reading the dialogue in Dan's voice !!
This is one of the few parts I actually remember from Heavensward's patches (it's been a looong while since I played this part). There does seem to be sort of a pattern where everything goes to hell at peace conferences, huh?
I absolutely love the tavern scene. How the music transitions from the hopeful but bittersweet celebration music to the far more sinister Without Shadow.
Was the long pause after "Let's get a drink" Durmin reacting to the obvious death flag? Or something else, I hope we find out!
This is the second post-3.0 cutscene that I really remember, mostly because the WoL gets roofied again. One of the worst part of wars is that the second a side "retaliates," whether that retaliation is for an actual thing or a thing dreamt, there are no innocents. "Justice," "protection…" For all of the talk and philosophy, there's not really any such thing as a "just" war, not really. Too many things are lost, too many people caught in the crossfire no matter what efforts the combatants take… assuming they take any in the first place. I can get behind "less unjust," though.
To be fair, I'm rather of the opinion that at this point Emmanellain needed to have his nose busted. People give us chores all the time, but I think might be the single most common non-Scion to do so.
Sometimes you have to eat your pain, to stop the cycles of pain from affecting others.
It's a hard thing to do, and the ones responsible for your pain may escape vengeance and justice both, but it keeps others from having to live your pain.
A fate that you should wish on no innocent.
“Get a drink after the ceremony?” This man is as good as dead isn’t he 🙁
Clearly an unpopular opinion, but I feel like I have to say it. Emmanellain may not have reacted the right way, but, okay, a bit of backstory. I remember too many moments where I have been put into stressful situations, and unable to think clearly I tried to react in the best way I could, only for everyone to turn on me because I apparently made a wrong choice. This sort of thing happened over and over again, no matter how much I thought it was the right thing, or how much I tried my best despite the panic, scorn was all I got. When Emmanellain punched Thancred and spoke of how he always knows just what to say and all, I really felt it. See, I'm autistic, so I'm very familiar with feeling like everyone is more capable and smarter and quicker and just better than me, and that's how everyone else saw it too. People would look at me funny and make comments about how strange I was. Having my words twisted against me because they didn't fit societie's version of normal. That speech could have been soken by me at one point.
I'm not saying how Emmanellain reacted was the right way, but a panicked response to a incredibly stressful situation that could potentially effect the course of history, and your the one in charge to fix it, yeah, I'm not going to pile more hot coals onto him, even if he's immature. Not all of us can have the foresight, stress management and decision making of a god all the time.
I love how akward Aymeric is in inviting you to do social stuff. It feels like he's asking you out which I mean, yes please.
Oh…. Oh Emmanellain… What more would you expect when you tell an archer to stop someone from proclaiming from on high… Poor fool boy. He's not equipped for something like this…
– Durmin & Taverns just don't go togheter.
– no lady, they shouldn't want Revenge, that's literally what got your entire city into this Milenia of war with the very angry vengeful dragons
– & yeah Sir Emmanellain not knowing how to make the right choices make sense considering he keeps getting put in the sidelines away from any real consequence he has to take responsibility for screwing up
– still, picking on the Magicless guy is probably not the best argument
Nidhogg is in the wrong for genocidal intentions, these specific Ishgardians are guilty of the same.
The point of a peace isn't to sweep the past under the rug and forget, it's to be able to look at it, and figure out how it could be prevented from happening again.
Killing every last whatever won't bring the dead back, and when you're done, you will have become the very thing you set out to destroy, and on top of that, the odds are exceedingly high history will (eventually) remember you for your crimes.
A few episodes ago, when we were looking for the arsonists and they met for the first time, it struck me just how well they were setting up Emmanellain as a foil for Thancred – specifically, for the Thancred we knew during ARR! The easygoing attitude, the way he seemed to be… distracted by any female character in a 50ft radius… yeah. The scene at the end of this episode is the payoff of that. It really drives home how Thancred has changed in the time we've known him.
Even if I don't quite believe him when he says that he's learned to live with his mistakes…
Sidenote: How DARE they hurt Honoroit!! My boy!! ;_;
Hot take: while this was basically the worst cast scenario, Emmanellain was in a situation that at best required the most perfect Diplomacy check that ever existed to not cause utter chaos, and there was basically no way he, a high-born nobleman, could argue against this angry servant class (note she's still referred to as "Earnest Maid" throughout) person stirring up a mob against what his family and associates are trying to accomplish. I genuinely can't think of anything he could have said or done that wouldn't look like a rich kid attacking those beneath him.
He still earned that thrashing from Thancred though. Dude fought a bear naked, don't test his patience.
Honestly this stuff is happening so often now that I get anxious whenever it's just slightly peaceful in this game.
Can't trust it!