(WARNING: Endwalker spoilers ahead!)
This is it y’all… the end of the end. Let’s do this!
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Yay!!!! We are here!
It's been a great ride watching you go through Endwalker. Glad you enjoyed it.
Absolutely loved the dungeon. The different planet per section concept is a great way to progress the story while also offering us a greater variety of content. Watching that final person in the second planet launching that weapon…that was intense. The way they progressed that final pre-trial sequence was so emotional. I as the player was completely broken by this point, and I was ready to give in to despair. They succeeded in putting me in the shoes of my character, and I felt each piece. Masterful telling of a decade long story coming to the most satisfying of conclusions. And oof….that last battle and the ending….stunning.
I found myself replaying the story and themes in my head for days and days after, and then I started watching everyone else. Seeing the journey through your eyes makes my journey stronger, and have even more meaning 💞
I never enjoyed story games but I like watching people enjoy them
I think the last section of the dungeon is definitely the path the ancients of Amaurot were on if the final days and the sundering had never happened. It's not them, but a society that closely parallels what would have happened to him.
As far as the Endsinger, she is the collection of all the metia that Hermes sent out. The blue Metion in the ending scenes is specifically the one who stayed with him that we knew in Elpis. She's the one we got through to and who still had enough hope in her heart to light up the Elpis flowers.
The prayers are a callback to the ARR cinematic when the Scions were all praying to help Louisouix at Cartenaux.
It was Zenos's sacrifice that manifested the device. As he died, he was wishing that his mirror would live, continue to find what they seek. 🙂💕
If you look, in the cutscene, you can see zenos stop breathing. If you talk to urianger again during the ending, he says that the teleporter appeared because of someone wishing you to return home, manipulating the dynamis infused space. Considering you’re passed out, he hints at the fact that Zenos’s final wish was for you to survive, and that’s how the teleporter appeared
You had the same reaction to Zenos at the end as me and Diva xD I so wanted to peace tf out and leave his ass stranded out in space lmfao
Yeah… when shinryu showed up I was like “are you FRACKING serious right now? For real? Dude… take a hint and just bugger off” lol at least SE finally found a use for our seriously creepy stalker 😂😂 and then that fist fight… that was far more satisfying than I could have ever expected. But that last dungeon though… holy crap that was a lot. The first world in it, I think, is visually phenomenal. I LOVED the ultra scary and dark imagery going on. It felt like a small tribute to Berserk, actually. Easily became my favorite dungeon in the game. To tell the truth I was just a smidgeon disappointed there wasn’t more Berserk style horror imagery going on, but overall I was super impressed with the style they went with. This expansion was such an amazing experience I honestly do not see how they could come close to this level of writing again in the coming years (7.0 will be the first expansion in the new story arc and will be similar to ARR in setting up events to come in 8.0, 9.0, etc as I understand it while 6.1 will officially begin the new story arc). I could go on and on for absolutely days about the god tier experience this expansion offered us. Since the day it released ff9 has been my favorite video game story, tied only by ff6, and now they have been firmly set into second place for me. The FF14 saga is just so amazing. Easily the best video game story I have ever had the pleasure to experience. Though… I still have one HUGE question, that, at least to my knowledge, has never been answered… How and why were there any who weren’t sundered at all? I mean, purely from speculation sake, I could say Venat chose to not sunder Emet. However, why would she not sunder Elidibus or Lahabrea? Elidibus could have been incapable I suppose because he was the heart of a primal, so he wasn’t actually “whole” to begin with, but that still leaves Lahabrea… hopefully the pandaemonium raids clear that up, though.
The Endsinger is the amalgamation of the other Meteia and all the "shadowed hearts" of the dead that they welcomed into themselves on those dead worlds – the Ea, the dragons, etc. "Our" Meteion was apparently split back off from the shared consciousness by seeing the Elpis blooms and remembering her love for Hermes.
Getting the big lift from Zenos is one of the coolest and funniest things ever. Love the glibness with which he just blows by the over-feelsy bits of the story – "I had assumed you were above something so banal as despair". And I love, genuinely love, that the WoL is game and takes that running start to jump on his head. Anything to get the job done.
37:37 "Where did that come from?"
You guys are in a place of pure Dynamis. Where simply wishing a thing fervently enough will cause it to happen. This is what happened with Thancred and why you could live and breathe in Ultima Thule.
Zenos, despite being a terrible person, despite being a maniac, despite being irredeemable…. considered us his one true friend. He was never joking when he called us that. He never wanted us to *die*, he wanted to fight us to the death. That sounds like it's the same thing, but it's not. We were his only friend, and even though we didn't reciprocate his feelings (and he knew this). This is why he offered the Scions his aid, offered us his aid. He finally learned that it was the only way to get what he wanted, to really be reunited with his friend the way he wanted to be.
So then he lost. He was disappointed of course, as he said, but remember, he didn't want us dead just for the sake of being dead. So when he lost, there's some words he utters that are not voiced and we don't get to read them. I believe that he wished his friend the best with his dying breath, because we won, and we granted him the pleasure he wanted. In his twisted world view, in his own personal story, he still won, even though he lost. He wanted us to face more. And so the device fell to us. Because Zenos wished for it (not specifically, because he didn't know about it, but in general).
Please note that I still think he deserved to die, he's a terrible person and he's not redeemed. But I do think he's a good character, finally.
It's been a pleasure watching this series! Thank you for sharing it with us! I'll definitely tune in to whatever you have in store next!
Ahhh, the ending has come ;o; it's been an emotional roller coaster, but thanks so much for playing and sharing! this story may be over, but at least there's more to come! it'll be really interesting to see where the plot in the patches goes
At the end of all things Zeno's proves he's a loyal simp to the WOL
Not sure if you noticed, but at 48:20 you show in the credits as well, which is a nice touch.
congrats on completing it. was a very fun playthrough to watch. 🙂 who's your favourite character? i'm a graha liker
I really didn't see that coming: Fighting. On a dragon. Who is Zenos.
I'll give Zenos this much…
Dude knows your worth, and he's your biggest believer…even if for the wrong reasons.
If only we all had his belief in our abilities more often, stg! xD
There is some suggestion from discussion around a some NPC conversation that the person responsible for the teleporter is Zenos with his dying desires (in a realm ruled by desire). But it's rather ambiguous.
This ending was so perfect 😀
It's always so funny to see a lala fist fighting Zenos xD
We fought Zenos in a realm where emotion is reality. Someone there must have desired for your safe return. Not someone outside it. Please ponder the meaning of that.
People have already covered the stuff with Zenos. All I'll add is if you chose the top option, he's almost gleeful. "Hah! Acceptance at last!" It actually made me smile to see him happy. XD
As for the end, Elidibus did say he saw you in Elpis and we didn't see him through MSQ, so, yeah… That's a thing. 🙂
I had meant to comment on the previous video, but I was at work literally all day long. SO, one last bonus round of trivia and food for thought. Prepare for an essay, reading is optional.
G'raha Tia might often seem the odd one out in your team, an exact polar opposite to Zenos in a way. Forever fanboying over you and your exploits, and no matter how much he achieved either as a Scion or as the Exarch, G'raha is always exceedingly humble about himself. This is all because he is a reference to the primary protagonist of Final Fantasy 3, the Onion Knight. The Onion Knight, known for the red armor and surprisingly youthful appearance, is a warrior of unparalleled knowledge and strength. This is why G'raha has a primarily red palette to his design, and why he is so intrinsically tied thematically to the Crystal Tower, which was the final dungeon in that game. In fact his theme song, Eternal Winds, is the world map theme from that same game.
More importantly than all that is G'raha's character work. In spinoff games such as Dissidia, it was established that the Onion Knight bears a massive burden of his own creation. A child genius, a prodigy, and one who feels that despite his youth, he must endeavor to live up to the expectations that others place upon him… And the larger expectations he places on himself. He is ever worried of making the wrong choices, of screwing up and hurting others for his mistake. However, there is one person in his same exact role who carries that role with courage and unwavering will: the Warrior of Light from Final Fantasy 1. A hero among heroes, a champion among champions. Onion Knight came to idolize the Warrior of Light, trying his best to follow the Warrior's footsteps and learn from him.
This mentality was lifted directly for Final Fantasy 14, where G'raha Tia will forever look to you for leadership and guidance as a fellow adventurer, but also as a role model and inspiration. And lastly, this is also why he is an All-Rounder in Trusts. As an Onion Knight, he is fully capable of taking any role in battle, as he has mastered all forms of combat.
Next is Zenos, who has already been covered a bit by other comments, so I'll be brief. Zenos is simultaneously the simplest and yet most complicated character in FF14, but that depends entirely on who you ask. Zenos means something different, something unique, to different players. To the raiders, the first-clearers, the savage content players, the Ultimate Legends… He is them. Zenos is there for the challenge, the excitement, the battle. Being pushed harder and harder, just because it is what he wants to do. Just like those who strive to increase their levels, increase their skills, and face the hardest challenges the game has to offer. "That, I cannot deny."
Some people, who are here for the story and characters, who are driven by those that surround them, just find Zenos as a misguided brute. They cling to what he did to Y'shtola and Yugiri in Stormblood, to what he did to Jullus and Garlemald in Endwalker, and they resent him for it. Rightfully so, but this causes them to ignore his pleas for battle simply because they see him as being unable to comprehend sympathy or empathy, which just makes him seem hollow and undesirable as a friend, or even as a foe. "Think what you will, but I'm not letting you leave this place."
Mixed among both sides, and in a side all their own, are people who are just sick of him. There are more important things to do, to fight, to craft, to gather, all more important than this guy who keeps trying to show up and just insert himself into everything we do. If he's willing to go all the way to the edge of the universe, then he'll never screw off. Best to just put him down now and just be done with it. "I've had enough of you, it ends here."
Throughout the game many people have had the option to reply in conversations, with it meaning very little to the course of the story as a whole. But in this moment, what you say to Zenos directly reflects your very emotions, your very view, on this character and his impact not on your avatar, but on you specifically. If you choose the first option, you shoot him the same smile he gave when he stole your body. You accept him for who he is, and he relishes in it. The second option will have you retain your desire to be a hero to others, and the desire to protect them from him. He is disheartened to discover he might have been wrong this whole time, but by this point, he's committed and will see it through to the end. The final option gives him what he originally aimed for before his emotional discovery. He has finally enraged you enough to seek his death, no more words are needed at that point.
Seeing as I've written a book here (I really love the narrative work in this game I can't help it) I'll just end this here, despite there being far more to discuss. Enjoy the rest of FF14, or whatever else you have planned. It's been quite the trip!
I don't remember about the fly-over in FF4 but it is in FF6
congrats for finishing EW !!
Reading the comments on this video and mannnn, I'd never considered the possibility that Zenos was the one to wish for the device to rescue you, and I feel dumb for not having considered that… lol. Of course, it ain't hard-confirmed, but honestly? I absolutely loved what they did with his character in this expansion, and so I feel like I could see him wishing for you to survive. It sucks that a lot of people just don't jive with his character, cause from what I've seen of other playthroughs or streams, it seems to detract from their experience of the expansion.
I don't know why, but Metions understanding about happiness being obtained and lost over and over again till we die is such a hopeful message for me. Because it's such a real way of interpreting life instead of it just belong happy or sad or just generalising it with a singular emotion.
Here we go! I stumbled on your channel and have loved watching your journey through this game. Been waiting for this ep to drop!
I'm not sure why they used the name "Meteion" for the one we met and all of her sisters, so its a bit confusing. I do not think the individual we met in Elpis wanted any of this, but due to shared consciousness she was the minority in the grand scheme. So all of this and the primal like being was due to all of them wishing for despair to consume all. I actually thought this was a throwback to Xeromus from ff4, but I was pleasantly surprised it was something new.
As for the Elpis scene at the end, Elidibus was always a child even when we fought against him. Its not a theory, its a fact due to at the end of 5.3 during his send off we see his original form. Another interesting side note is in Japanese Venat is actually referred to as Venus. Either case a big congrats on finishing the story, it was a fun journey to see your reaction!
lalafel vs zenos fist fight is the best, no substitute required
Congrats Mystic, 😄 And you can see your comrades they are at the places from where they said. 😀 someone on the internet does have the list of where ali and alph are and the others in eorzea 🙂 I always go to where raha and thancred are lol
I been watching your playthrough since the start of Endwalker. I have to say that I been enjoying your experience through this expansion. So glad to watch it to the end with you. Thank you!
For the teleporter, they left it very vague at to why the remote control came to you. There is a lot of different hypothesis for it. Cause Zenos definitely died and you see his chest stop moving but because his sentence ended openly, some people think it was him. There is also the twins when they wished for a path to happiness for the WoL. And just because they got restored doesn't mean that wish still isn't in place. And then there is where you were focusing, either when Meteion originally left or when you were thinking of the past right before it came down. So, yeah, lots of different guesses.
When bae rides the light of the stars to you 😍
Tip: when you do complete more of the raid content, if you re-watch some of the group scenes from EW more of the side characters from the raids will show up.
Metion never needed a "redemption arc". Everything that happened to her was Hermes' fault to begin with.
I think it's very interesting how you can get a good idea of a streamer's motivation based on how they react to Zenos at the end and what choice they pick. People who pick option 1 are the type who love challenges and understood the point Zenos was trying to prove to himself and you. That even after everything you do, the excitement from a new harder challenge is a large part of why you play. From running extremes, savage raids or people who enjoy the thrill of the moment when pushed to the brink of your abilities. When you pick option 1, Zenos is elated that what he believed is something from the one person he has any amount of respect for also sees value in.
While option 2 and 3 people are the streamers/players who see him just as an annoyance and want to continue their own story, despite seeing why Zenos does what he does. That or just want him out of the story because Zeno's way of approaching life makes no sense to them and want to end his part of the story. Someone who "only burns yours save for reasons you deem worthy"
Also it's interesting how this is Zenos 100% talking to you, the player, not the WOL.
Anyhoo, loved watching you enjoy the game and I hope any more content you make is just as good!
You plan on showing your reactions to the role quests?
Thanks so much for the playthrough, and I'm eager to see what you do next, be it FF14 related or no1 Oh and Happy Birthday! Make sure you take some time for yourself and maybe take Argos for a spin xD
It's kinda saddening "but understandable" in some way that players do not understand Zenos' final battle speech.
Because the question was the most basics of basics. And since people throughout the game tend to forget their beginnings, as adventurers.
It was no projection at all. Zenos was amazing in this expac and he was the right person to close it out with to be able to start AGAIN, not as heroes, but our reason why we all started playing anyway. As adventurers.
I hope in time people will realize that.
I had the same reaction to Zenos because I was so exhausted at this point, but over time I've come to appreciate his role in the story. Despite his destructive actions he was always the counterpoint to the nihility of Fandaniel & Meteon. He was extremely passionate about the one meaning he personally found in life. There's a scene where Fandaniel asks Zenos about how he only cares about fighting us and you can see how taken aback he is by the passionate explanation Zenos gives. In his twisted way he had touched the meaning Hermes had always been searching for. Somehow in death we gave his life meaning, his desire to completely burn through the candle of his life, something only we could give him. For someone so simple he's surprisingly complex.
I still really wanted to walk away when he offered though.
The last cutscene where Elidibus speaks is the preview to Pandemonium. It may be hard to remember because Elpis was A LOT, but Elidibus did say he remembered seeing you in Elpis, but YOU never met HIM in MSQ. Now you know why. 🙂
Also! You can find all of the Scions in the world after MSQ!
Thancred and Urianger – Labyrinthos where the Ragnarok is
Krile and G'raha – the Baldesion Annex in the hall
Alphinaud and Alisaie – Garlemald, use the Tertium aetheryte and they're right there
Y'shtola – Matoya's Cave, also talk to Matoya! I think you'll like it!
Estinien – Radz-at-Han, in the restaurant from before
Also! Ameliance is in the Leveilleur mansion on the second floor
Fourchenault is in either Aporia or Sharlayan Hamlet, it escapes me right now
And I would suggest hunting for other previous NPCs in your spare time because most have something to say about your universe saving adventure!
Zenos as a character is supposed to reflect the adventurer that our character is at heart, but in a twisted sort of way. That beyond the savior of the world we've become, we're simply an explorer, a thrillseeker, a traveler.
His alluding to us seeking every greater heights I think is to help remind us that after all this is over, we don't necessarily need to find a new world-spanning threat. Our adventurer can find joy in seeking new experiences, just as Azem and Venat did.
Gotta love how Meteion restarted the WHOLE UNIVERSE.