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FFXIV’s Windfall in the wake of Blizzard’s Chaos and comments on the Blizzard Dev “LEAKS” regarding the current state of World of Warcraft and why Final Fantasy XIV is crushing now, when it’s always been doing good things.
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0:00 Introduction
1:00 TLDR (Summary)
5:00 Blizzard “LEAKS” Post on Why WoW is Failing
21:48 Grummz on the State of World of Warcraft and What Is Happening
32:40 Blizzard focused on the Money, FFXIV Focused on making a better game
35:30 You don’t want to miss this part
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Best way to fix wow do what yoshi p does and acts. 1 listen to fan base.
Man your attitude and just overall approach to videos like were talking is discord having a debate is the reason i love you.
I went to ffxiv 1 year ago, im done with blizz. Not 1 cent more to the corporate gteed that had become.
When i log to ffxiv, gw2 im happy.
When i logged to wow i felt bad, pressuredc, etc
6:44 my brain stutters 24/7. you are not alone. dont worry. 🙂
Gamers speak with their game play, monetisation of a game instead of good content, gamers tent to gravitate to content, it happens to a lot of games, its a little more obvious with wow and ffxiv, with wow being that top game for so long and to go from content to monetisation, Activision CEO, does like them massive bonus's games have to become ,money making machine, gamers are moving
ff14 is fucinkg sik game, good way
The seeds of blizzard's problems are with the foundation of the WoW brand.
They didn't complete vanilla.
Instead they took the expansion cash infusion and never looked back.
My spouse and I routinely have conversations where we list all the content from WoW's 1.0 that was never implemented. If you played wow hard 17 years ago, you have a list of things you wanted to see, that are in the original game files, and were never touched or talked about again.
The have been running after shiny objects in the distance for years, ignoring the treasure at their feet.
What garbage site is this? It looks like you are reading green text pepe memes. This person can't even write or come up with coherent thoughts. They aren't wrong, though.
It's the people who just want blizzard on their resumes that are part of the problem, it attracts clock punchers who are not happy but can't be bothered to move on.
This is the vibe I get from all this stuff going on right now.
Buying the game:
WoW: Money Please!
FFXIV: Save THIS cat, jump through a few hoops, turn around, pat your head while rubbing your belly, hop on one foot, and finally give us some money… Oh sorry you saved the wrong cat and need to restart the entire process.
Addressing issues with the game:
WoW: You are having fun whether you think you are or not!
FFXIV: This blade of grass is slightly out of place and barely impacts your experience? Here's a new patch that fixes that and why don't we go ahead and give you a few new items and an exp buff while we're at it.
WoW need to have wow 2.0 if they want to last another 10-20 year + … wow now just not good enough anymore
I had the time of my life watching this video! You need to sing more at the end of your videos!
Hey dude. I also have dyslexia and I find I have trouble with similar words. Keep going man. Don't feel self conscious about it. It's who we are. Don't need to justify it. ❤️
Many players are leaving WoW to go to FF14, because all of the grinds that Blizzard has at the end game in WoW. If want to do WoW mythic raids, I need to do the following at least:
1) Reach max level
2) Run dungeons, normal, heroic, and mythic trying to get a chance to gear
3) Run PVP to get PVP gear, a better award system to get good PVP gear then trying to get decent PVE gear
4) Progress your Covenant for a little needed power, and probably the one that will best performance according to WoW web sites
5) Run dailies to get possible better gear, and upgrades to your Covenant 's soul binds
6) Run daily quests in the Maw and Corthea to get upgrades to have better run in Torghast and able to get a little Soul Ash
7) Need to run Torghast a lot to get Soul Ash / Cinders to get / upgrade your single legendary gear
8) After decently geared begin running LFR (Looking for Raids)
9) Join a serious Raid Guild that wants to do Mythic Raids
10) Next go to Normal Raiding
11) And then go to Heroic Raiding
12) After geared well, congratulations you can finally try to do Mythic Raiding
While in FF14 at least from what I understand if you want ti get into Ultimate Raid is a lot simpler and more straightforward.
While I'm 99% sure that leak is fake, there's no doubt some of the stuff there is true. I've heard content creators even speak on some of those things in the past from connections they have within the company or from devs themselves leaking things anonymously through email, etc.
If you want a glimpse into the state of the WOW team, look no further than the author of the last pe-expac novel Madeleine Roulx. Do a quick google search to see what the wow community is dealing with
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I started my Final Fantasy journey this week. I had quit Wow at the beginning of the year after playing for years. I have no desire to go back. In regards to Asmongold, I generally find myself agreeing with a lot what he says. He's fairly reasoned and when he criticizes Wow it's because he loves the game. For the 'new' devs to turn around and call him toxic, or blame toxic masculinity shows their personal deficiencies and how much they have their head in the sand over how much Wow has fallen.
interesting info: both asmongold and Chris Kaleiki (a former wow dev who quit shortly before shadowlands launch) have said this is not true. It would almost be better if it were true though. Its alarming when this post feels like it could be true and is a good representation of how the wow developer team is viewed by wows playerbase (largely a bunch of massive egos that view critique as a bunch of trolls on the internet trying to take wow down). It would be a lot easier to change the work culture than changing player perception that has solidified over years and years of failure, lack of communication and adversarial interactions overall.
You could ask any wow player who is at least aware of who Yoshi P is. "Can you imagine him saying that about the playerbase of his game?" You wouldnt find a single one who would say yes. But it is a lot easier to see ion holding that opinion, even though he likely doesnt. Until wows playerbase believes in the developers the same way they did all the way through mop, they should not let us dictate the narrative. They need to put themselves out there on a regular basis.
wow refugee here, you're my 2nd sub for ff14 behind zepla
less people are coming back even for expansions, I may take a dip into Shadowlands when the next expansion is on the horizon and Shadowlands is given for free with a month sub if I decide to play classic for a bit again, but otherwise I see no reason to pay for WoW expansions anymore if the current state of things continues
What irks me the most about this if it is real is how they insinuate that Preach is a bad actor.
Keep doing your thing Brian! You're doing great! I'm also dyslexia and struggle with pronouncing things too. Please keep going! 😀
Great video~ I find this whole topic really interesting.
I know I would never wanna see a game die. After being a long time player of City of Heroes, I have been on that end where a game you dearly love dies, you end up being a lost soul and float from game to game and yes, I even tried LARPing. I was also a software developer (non-gaming) but the industry as a whole regardless of goals there is always someone of power who loses the vision and are so convinced in the alternative vision that proves to be detrimental and not only do you lose clients you also lose employees. TBH I'm chomping at the bit to play D2R. I just realized you're playing the music to the battle with the Cloud of Darkness in World of Darkness in the background! LOL awesome!
I recently jumped ship from WoW and joined Final Fantasy 14 due to their generous free trial with no time limit and i ended up buying the entire game + their latest expansion and I'm having so much more fun than i ever did with WoW. The community is far less toxic, the developers seem to genuinely care about the players and not just think of us as another metric or yet another cow they can milk for every cent. FFXIV is a breath of fresh air.
I am not coming back for next expansion. I'm done.
After 15yrs of on again off again playing…..Just tired of the lies and not doing anything about bots, gold farming, and lame ladders that make you chase gears that gets nerfed as soon as you put it on? Wow is into punishing players, not rewarding them. I haven't played wow since Osmond gold went, FF14 and I followed his lead…ty Osmond F U blizzard.
We need to leave and on a nee expansion stay gone …blizzard needs to learn a lesson
Great video Brian. That audio sounds amazing… Even on mobile I can tell the difference. 👍
I never found a FC worth staying in. Also the forced group content in the leveling process was a real turn off.
People Coming back for an expansion may not be true. After BA I did not buy Shadow Lands. While I am still interest in what WOW does I am looking for shift with development and decision making. It will have to be consistent (year) before I come back. They have a chance to get people back but face it Blizzard is not the same company I see the EA behind them. I personally don't think they will ever change. I do enjoy seeing people get out of that abusive relationship.
I'm one of those players who left wow after 10 years playing and almost 10 alts full lvl to see the game I grew up playing become a casino where every six months if you spend a certain amount you get a mount out of that 9.1 story is a forced joke
I'm sorry for any typos I'm a brazilian wow player who spent my fortune on blizzard and like so many others i had to see a beloved franchise go to waste
Best part about this is you know Bobby is shitting himself right now because them shareholders are most definitely hearing about this.
I miss 11 =( wish they would re skin and re release it. Good to see you doing well brother!
I guess you can say
chaos is a ladder
Yoshi-P said he wished he had WoW's budget. Welp, it looks like his budget is about to go up with all these new subs. I wonder what ideas he has (if any) that he would implement with a larger budget?
The schemers in the marketing department forget that they are not doing the customers a favor, it is supposed to be a mutual transaction, but they act as if gamers are entitled for not liking the schemes and lack of quality. The reason gamers are so passionate and get so upset is because they gave you their money. They love to weaponize the sunken cost fallacy to keep gamers stuck in but want to ignore the negatives of doing so. If you take money for a product, now there is an expectation of quality and listening to what the customer wants, that's how it is in any other field. If someone goes to a restaurant everyday and then they notice that the food starts coming out cold, or too salty, or burnt and they complain only for them employees not to listen, at first they may let it slide and keep coming back, but if it keeps happening, they're going to get mad at the lack of care when they're coming to spend their money there, and eventually they're going to stop coming and they will rightfully, bad mouth the restaurant. That's how it works, FF14 has the right mentality right now in how they view the transaction, we pay and get quality content as a result so both parties are happy and rewarded, not this one sided blood sucking.
People are like "Maybe this will be Blizzard's wake up call."
I don't want Blizzard to wake up, I want to unhook the life support and smother it with a pillow.
Hey, don't apologize for being dyslexic, you're KO with me!
Sorry.
wow dies world will be rejoice We Wil Never Be Slaves
the Selbina music at the start from ffxi <3
"blizzard has made it easy to give them money, FF has made a better game" very true, the issue with the account setup has been ongoing since FFXI, for some reason they never put their focus on their account management, which once you purchase the game isnt as big deal but the entry to play is rough to say the least. BUT. this has told me one thing from the start, their focus is spending money on their game and not extorting players from their money. Money is the companies goal but they realize you cant have one without the other. unhappy players = no money. The free reboot and still standing discount for us 1.0 players was that for me, to this day I pay less monthly. I kept my sub active and played through all of the bad times, once they mentioned the revamp i kept my sub active, even when i wasent playing, hoping that my sub, even as small as it was, would help them make the game better and to my surprise it turned out fantastic!
Up until shadowlands I had the same feeling, i got pumped before shadowlands due to the wow development team taking more feedback than ever. I got hyped and bought shadowlands. Months after, it seemed like they slowly stopped taking feedback or even listening. that was my final straw.
Modern WOW design is driven foremost with engagement metrics in mind. They stretch out content to the point where everything feels like a slog and sugarcoat that by putting a shiny carrot at the end. Everything is held together by extrinsic reward structures only. There is simply too much content the game asks you to do, that is mindless and boring busy work and too little that is intrinsically fun or engaging.
This design breeds a super toxic playerbase as you group up with people doing content no one actually enjoys, just to get to the reward at the end.
So every minor mistake, which might derail the pathway to the given reward, is met with harsh response by the other players.
Because you just extended the time they need to spend doing content they don't enjoy.
If you check the google trends for both games its kinda crazy to see how much impact some streamers have on boosting overall interest:
https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?geo=US&q=%2Fm%2F021dvx,%2Fm%2F064ln09
July 3rd was the day Asmongold streamed FFXIV to 200k+ viewers (his initial stream's vod has by now over 1M unique viewers), which is the point in time the google searches for FFXIV closed in on WOW.
If these leaks are false, Blizzard's silence and lack of actions does not help the matter.
I would like to say thank you for all your hard work that you do for this community. Also thank you for making it easier for me to start tanking. when I started playing ff14 I thought I would never tank I just had to much Anxiety thinking can I do it will I be good enough so thank you you definitely gave me to push I needed to start tanking keep up the awesome work 😃
It's not hard to buy FFXIV if you happen to randomly foozle your way through the process randomly and just happen to make the right choices. 😅
I've wanted WoW to be good again for a long time. What they do is implement complicated progression systems on top of complicated progression systems, locking the progression by timegates.
They implemented systems that make people more toxic instead of more helpful. In example keys in mythic, where you loose the key if you fail, which makes people toxic if somebody makes mistakes.
I do not often agree with Asmon, but in that one I think he is right: Punishment is never fun. Preach said that too regarding mythic apexes … if they punish you when you're on struggle on your knees already trying to avoid the blade coming down by stepping you in the back, that's not fun.
What FFXIV does right is the duty roulette, which actually encourages players leveling other jobs to use it to level up, and help new people there, making older content relevant. While duty finder pretty much feels like dungeon finder in WoW, what I've seen is that people are a lot less toxic. They don't loose a lot besides a few minutes if there is a wipe.
So the difference is the way it's designed, it's designed around bringing more experienced players together with newer players and not punish them at the same time.
What I have to say about ffxiv, healing isn't a lot of fun to me, I usually play a healer and tank, and probably it's me, but I do not enjoy healing a lot in FFXIV – not because you switch between damage and healing, that's actually fun – but it feels you need to work most of the whole party for me (tried White Mage and Scholar). I'll give it a try again with the new healer coming (which, seriously, looks cool), but I'm not very hopeful.
And ye, being at 64 on a warrior (my WHM didn't make it past 51, and ye, I started some time before the WoW exit .. I take my time :D), I enjoy it, I enjoy the story telling (though, lots of cutscenes), I enjoy how it feels playing and playing in a party… it just feels good at the moment, so that I get up in the morning and look at my schedule when I can finish work to play an hour or two. That didn't happen to me in a long time.