Asmongold Reacts to Final Fantasy XIV: the biggest disease of FFXIV… Parsing.
Parsing In FFXIV is a Disease | by MisshapenChair
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getting hit by mechanics should give damage dealt reduction debuff stacks. easy solve
I feel like parsing and addons in final fantasy is mostly that people had them in WoW and wanted them ported across. There’s just no need in FF to have these things, it’s not that serious of a game.
parsing and world buff meta was so anoying in classic wow
I remember a white mage.
We were doing a dungeon and i start noticing that i take far more dmg than usual and dies a few time. The following chat unsued:
"Stop using Clemency, use cds."
"Ok. Why aren't you using regen?"
"Don't need."
"That's kinda the base of your kit."
"I ain't gonna be using a gcd when i can dps."
Gee. We're in Violet Tides, not Epic of Alexander.
During late Shadowbringers, there was also a problem with more people using tool assisted runs to bring back indicators that were hidden in the hardcore raid content. Some groups would even kick you out for not using it. Hopefully those jerks are banned now.
15:00 in E8S, we had an infamous mechanic called light rampant, what made that mechanic horrible is that it was random what you would need to do and if you were tethered to an orb it was essentially guaranteed dps loss. Me and my friends have blacklisted so many people because of that mechanic, because what they would do is that they would purposefully fail the mechanic causing a wipe and because that mechanic flashbang you when you fail it, most people would not notice that you caused the wipe, but at some point we started recording the fights and if someone caused a wipe and didn't speak up, we would initially call them out on it and if they refused to cooperate, we would kick and blacklist them.
For me it's not parsing that causes the getting hit by mechanics (I don't use parsing, I did activate a couple times just to satisfy my curiosity of where was my damage and then forgot about it), what does that to me is playing samurai. In P3S where I'm stuck with parties training for late mechs wiping on early ones (rarely because of me, but of course at times I have my own brain fart), I have no trouble evading mechanics save for the few instances I lose focus or get disorianted regarding where I am in the map, but when I tried it as Samurai, I kept getting hit because as Samurai somehow I feel the compulsion to get greedy to land every attack I can. So I'm changing to Summoner, which has a more flexible rotation that introduces some clear chances for making decisions.
I’ve joined a group as a helper/filler that had this one guy that would greed on mechanics all the time, and whenever he fails and gets damage downs, he tried to wipe the party… and he didn’t even try to make it unnoticeable or something… he would straight up aim aoes at the party or something lul
I got to know later that ppl eventually grew tired of that and kicked him lemayo
Parsing, or at least getting to know your performance is a great self improvement tool though, but some ppl just use this tool in a far more toxic way.
I myself am a parsing monkey and I understand and can’t deny that one big mistake can demotivate you for the rest of that pull, but at least I can flip the switch and actually aim for the clear properly when it’s needed.
(I know that’s not an excuse, i need to fix that… I know…. I know…… but parsing is fun 😭)
lately mishappen has been doing a lot of incoherent ranting in his video which makes him very hard to stomach watching these days. Do people do the things he's mentioned? Yes, are they big enough of a population to make a video about it? No. In fact there are more people who take an "i don't care about my dps" approach and willing do "damage down strats" than those who are toxic top parsers. People who regularly go for top logs aren't toxic at all and do it simply out of boredom because they know how gimmicky top logs are. In 14 casuals are far more toxic than hardcore are and if this video isnt further proof of that than i dunno what is. The fact that this is the same guy who made the 14 hierarchy video is kinda funny especially since he manage to contradict himself completely.
The guy makes alot of good points but how he talks is shit. It's like he feels he is sitting above everyone and his views are the only ones that matters.
Parsing is a learning tool. It's not a penis.
"it's not enough for me to win. I need to win HARDER!!1!" What ppl that care about parses think , while ruining the experience to various degrees for everybody around them.
People say parsing doesn’t matter but you cant get into a heroic or higher raiding guild without at least purple parses if you’re dps, but FF might be different
A clear is a clear. Yes and no. If you clear with a grey parse, that's fine so long as you did the mechanics and you supply an antiquate amount of your share of damage. However, if you are messing up mechanics, getting out damaged by a tank/healer as a DPS, not DPSing as a healer, and being a general "Air Anchor" to the party, then no sir, you did not clear. You got carried.
parsing is not bad its how players utilize it
If anyone wants to know how to make savage reclears and prog a second job, try doing it with a guildmaster obsessed with orange parsing. I can't count how many wasted kills we had throughout various savage tiers because disphit couldn't deal with the fact he died and did shit for dps for the rest of the pull
Parsing is why I stopped raiding Mythic… I put too much worth into it, and actually stopped having fun when I got below a 90%… On mythic bosses… I was actually upset when I did better… than 89% of the player base. Not to mention that you're 100% correct Asmon… holy crap the number of people that torpedoed our progression so that they could parse was just mind blowing. The cannister boss in CN comes to mind… In the first weeks of progression that boss was a…. SINGLE TARGET ENCOUNTER. But nooooo have to optimize our burst on the three adds that die in less than 8 seconds right? Missed the ST dps check repeatedly for the first 50ish pulls. Was intensely frustrating.
I just cleared endsinger extreme for the first time last week and the first thing I did was ask my fc leader if he could share the logs. Not because of how much damage I did but because I was legit curious and wanna get better at optimization so I can be a better help to the party. I'm not a savage raider or anything. Casual really, but I don't want to be a hindrance to my party and for that I will get better
I used to parse top 3 disc heals, number one druid tank and healer for a while year almost, and number two hunter for almost all of wrath..
Numbers mean nothing if you can't do the mechanics. And even when you do have your mechanics down, dps means more, but seriously…parsing is pure toxicity, and World of Logs is just full of people intentionally botching the mechanics more than half the time… It's why my entire raid group stopped trying to parse. It took us a while to figure out it was happening, but we stopped. Crazy to use logs for anything other than fun.
If you keep wiping in a savage just don't die lol.
Parsing only really shows dps in like a burn phase, doesn’t show a player’s ability to problem solve or stay out of aoe’s
One of the reasons I stopped playing World of Tanks almost ten years ago was because of how invested I got in my stats. It's not exactly parsing, but it's similar. I was so focused on maintaining my rankings that the game became more about winning at any cost than actually enjoying the game, and I would do things in matches that didn't necessarily benefit my team if it meant I could get more damage or assists. Usually that does help the team, but not always. It was a very selfish playstyle.
And man, would I get mad when I lost a match. It was insane, and when I put a dent in my refrigerator door after I punched it and broke a headset or two after throwing them, I realized I should probably stop playing something that made me so angry, so I quit. Probably one of the best decisions I've ever made, as much as I loved the game.
I've pretty much stopped playing any PvP games or game modes now for the same reasons, I get way too invested. I start shaking and sweating and shit. I don't look at stat trackers anymore either. I get too wrapped up in performing well and I get tunnel vision, I lose perspective, and it's not good for my health. I'm just glad I recogized this problem while I was still in my 20's.
Final Fantasy Parsing isn’t like WoW parsing though. Keep that in mind, it’s calculated differently, especially with rdps being the man thing, giving support jobs the same importance as the others. Most people don’t care about 90th percentile, because the game can be cleared with average dps. What we don’t want is people who are doing less than tanks or healers, people who are in the 25th of less. The grays, if you will. Especially in harder content. And it’s not one bad run, you look at the average performance, not the best/worst. This is because you should carry your own weight, and people who dps that low require carrying. They need to learn their class and the game before doing content that requires at least average ability. That’s my only opinion on it.
I once told a parser in my old fc that none of it matters and the guy was seriously offended by that. I always told ppl like him that i wouldnt ever care for logging in ff14 since playing wow gave me enough of this bs to deal with. And yeah the guy from my fc came out of i belive savage zodiark and complained about "Trash grey parsers" so parsing really makes ppl toxic considering the guy was up to the point where he got into logging very chill.
parsing doesn't matter if you are remotely decent at the game, it only matters when a reaper when its the top dps in the game does less damage than the tanks and healers kek
this shit AINT TRUE, ASMON YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT YOU ARE A LIVE STREAMER, YOU ARE FAMOUS PPL WILL DICK RIDE YOU BUT PARSE DO MATTER!
Biggest FF14 disease is MMO minion and its thousands of bot farmers
It's a huge conflict of interest really. No incentive to run the content properly if you're constantly trying to get high numbers.
I left one of the FCs i joined because parsing back like in HW i was semi new and they do parsing every single content and it became really annoying and it start to make you daout your play style and make just think of how to make big damage rather than just enjoy the game and it became very toxic how everyone just want to do high damage like even in normal contents
Further context: the move 'Kaiten' was recently removed from samurais' toolkit because of "excessive skill bloat". Basically, too many skills to fit on a hotbar. A lot of SAM mains hate this change, which most likely came about because people complained about SAM parse damage.
FFXIV high parses follow a simple rule. They rotate who get’s prio. That means 8 runs where all buffs, all heals and all meaningful increases to DPS are focuses on one player.
Mechanics over dps
"blue parses?!" literally the kind of giga nerd the video is talking about
Had a reaper doing 6k dps on drs yesterday XD not sure if parsing doesn’t really matter but needless to say we did not meet the 53k dps check XD
Yes, parsing is cancer. I think it's contributed to ruining the WoW community, tbh.
Parsing as a tool is fine, it has its uses, the community however isn't always fine.
My fc has "that guy" who want to play Reaper because it look "cool" now for some unknow reason he want to play Ninja instead I wonder why.