Venat’s walk aka henceforth he shall walk from FFXIV Endwalker
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Henceforth, Rook shall cry.
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00:00 Hermes frustration
09:26 Saying Goodbye to Venat
23:46 Answers Reprise aka The Walk
42:21 Back to the future
55:39 Garlemald Duty Instance
1:23:26 Zenos Butting in
1:36:18 Working with Sharlayan
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Oh here we go!
This is gonna be a good watch 😢, better get a pack of tissues…. again
Zenos is based
Hermes is such a painfully tragic character, so desperate for someone to understand his pain he creates empathic creatures incapable of experiencing anything else but the pain of others, but they don’t have the emotional tools to process that pain, because Hermes doesn’t have the emotional tools to process his pain, creating an endless spiral down.
If only he talked to his friends instead of turning inward for answers he doesn’t have.
It still blows my mind that they didn't know this would be the story until they were writing shadowbringers. They wrote the story based on Answers, not the other way around. They literally wrote a songfic so epic it took two expansions.
I'm glad I rewatched this scene. Can't say why here but it helped me make sense of something I forgot.
What gets me is that Venat's and Azem's jobs were to be councelors to the people. Hermes knew Venat and presumably Azem by association. He could have just talked to them! Listen to Venat's views on the world, go get drunk with Azem, learn to appreciate the world a little more. Even just talking to his coworkers to see they actually did share some of his own concerns. But no, instead he spent all his time stuck in his own head and projecting his mind onto everyone else, seeing only what he wanted to. Talk to people about your problems instead of letting them fester!
I've been waiting so long for this. Witness. Suffer.
Rook goes back to the future and see's the guy T-posing
Me: Metion was right….
Right at the start "I took a few moments to collect myself"
those who know what's coming next:
snort, giggleWell, if it isn't everyone's soft sprinkle of twilight dew here drop her much anticipated reaction to the cutscene of dreams and nightmares both.
I have a wholeass essay I want to write about Fandaniel, but your comment section is probably not the place. I just want to point out the comparison to the horrible practice of the Dotharl tribe, where they expected you to be the person of the soul you inherited. Even though Fandaniel had tons of other issues that kinda made this perfect storm of a villain, it was still cool to see that aspect worked into his character design on top of all his other trauma
Such a perfect reaction to fannypack, I think what destroyed me most about the end of amorout was vena bringing pain and suffering to the world to temper us to its effects and give us something to combat meteon with.
Oooh boy this is going to be spicy
"How did I get here…? Why am I saying these things because my brain is so emotionally destroyed right now?" Somewhere in the shadows, Ishikawa smiles.
Game volume is way too low
I can't believe Rook hates Hermes so much! I really felt for him. Especially because Hermes and Venat are so similar. They both saw the problems of the ancient world and sought answers through traveling — Venat traveling the world and Hermes the universe.
I believe the term you were looking for is "mothertrucker". You're welcome.
I love your dialogue but I’ve noticed that sometimes you miss important bits of information because you constantly talk over things that are important to the story. Like Hermes not having his memories either or why they were in Garlemald in the first place and were taking them from there to Old Sharlayan. It’s tidbits of the story that you’re missing because of this that I like it better when you spent 5-10 minutes or how ever long discussing such things when the cutscenes are over much more.
With Hermes, I feel like I have to separate him as an Ancient and him as the Ascian we end up dealing with. Hermes makes grave mistakes, to me showing the same kind of hubris many of the other Ancients display but pointed in a different direction (the decision to put all of humanity to a "determination" feels both arrogant and vindictive, but in a "we know what is best for the star" kind of way that seems to be a mentality many of them hold), and at the core is a tragic heart that doesn't know how to deal with what he's dealing with because he's in a society that tells him he shouldn't be feeling this way.
And then you have him as an Ascian, which seems to be largely Amon's personality, mixed with Hermes' knowledge and memories (the last couple expansions seem to point to sundered Ascians being primarily the individual that was raised back into the position, rather than being subsumed by the original version). He was, as it turns out, pretty much always a bastard, with the most prominent element shared between the two being that they felt like they were missing something, that the society they were in was lacking in some way. Then with Xande, Amon ends up making a very Hermes' like decision, seeing the conclusion of another and deciding that all of humanity should be subject to that conclusion…especially once combined with the memories of Hermes. So it's like Hermes, to me, but taken to a darker extreme.
And in the end, I just feel conflicted (even now, months after going through the story) regarding how much pity I feel for Hermes (though I feel none for Amon/the Fandaniel we meet in the present).
there are only 3 kinds of people: People who understand Zenos situation and motivation, those who go on a fucking apeshit rant and bust a vessel or those who are over him since 2 addons ago.
Loved your reaction to this! I pretty much had the same reaction to the Venat cutscene which was just uncontrollable sobbing.
I'd suggest stocking up on tissues, you have far more tears to shed as you go on 😄
women are cringe
If there's any consolation to that feeling of "failure" that accompanies the journey in Elpis, of thinking you really could nip it all in the bud, it's in the words of Capt. Picard – "It is possible to commit no mistakes and still lose. That is not a weakness; that is life."
Hermes couldn't have gone after Venat for still remembering… because he himself didn't remember she had those memories.
The thing that guts me in the Best Cutscene in Video Game History is you can tell Venat doesn't really want to go through with it. It breaks her heart when she can't get through to her fellow Ancients, and you see it when she shuts her eyes before steeling herself to (I assume) complete the ritual that summons Hydaelyn into herself.
The other thing that guts me is watching the first slouch in Emet's shoulders when he says goodbye to his friend.
Then watching each blow, again and again, into Venat, which represent each Calamity or the many times she's had to expose herself to protect us – like against Ultima, or against Hades himself in Dying Gasp.
Ever since last November when I experienced these same moments, I've been wondering how Rook must have felt about this narrative masterwork. Thank you, Rook, for providing the Answers I needed.
"You know nothing, Rookuri." 😂
I love how in Elpis we interact with Hermes who is trying to find the meaning of life and when we leave, we immediately get an answer from Zenos who says that the meaning of life is simply what you make of it (in more complicated words, anyway).
A lot of what Zenos is right too. When he said "If his motives met with your approval, would you no longer resent the outcome?" That reflects on what Hydaelyn did. What she did condemned her own people, but most of us agreed that at the time it was the correct thing to do to stop Zodiark, so we're cool with it. We approved her motive, so we don't resent the outcome. All of this right after Elpis to just hammer it in.
Zenos is just a combatsexual stalker but goddamn he can be so deep sometimes. I really enjoyed his character, but I totally understand why others wouldn't.
A little disappointed that you never finished your thought with regards to Zenos' "ify motives met your approval would you no longer resent the outcome" question – and also that you brushed it off as the developers trying to do something. They are absolutely trying to do something, but I'm interested in the question. I think it's a very real question people, especially people in power, should interrogate themselves with. Do the means justify the ends?
Watching this was funny… because Zenos is right. It is your job to find your own meaning for life. Putting that meaning in others hands gets you people like welll… Zenos and the ultra-nationalism of garlemald which as you saw, was working great for them in the MSQ. It's ironic because he has found meaning… he very specifically does not fall to hate, despair and other negative emotions that grasp others and turns them into the monsters. Is his reason wrong and reprehensible… yes. But he's also not wrong that it is ultimately your responsibility to find a purpose. The best part though is Alisae is also right. While Zenos makes a point in finding your own purpose, Alisae shows that your purpose cannot be at the expense of all others around you, caring and working with people is important and rightfully dunks on Zenos after he rightfully dunks on Jullus.
You read him as being on the same side of Meteion and Fanny… but it's the opposite. He is actually the exact extreme counterpoint of Hermes world view and thus is an antithesis to Meteion. This shows that the opposite of Meteion is ALSO not a good approach to life, and much like everything in this game, balance needs to be found.
Your reaction to people you dislike is very VISCERAL though, and I'm not sure that's a good thing. It dismisses viewpoints… even good ones due to a dislike of their own approaches to situations based on your upbringing, rather than looking at circumstances surrounding their decisions. Which is a bit ironic considering the games entire narrative message.
I hated Fanny Pack and Zenos with a passion. Their motivations just did nothing for me at all.
"Henceforth he shall walk" One of the most powerful moments ever in video game history!
Do you remember back in Shadowbringers at Eulmore when the second starshower happened and Emet's Amarot was above the ocean.
Two men near by were effected, one hears the echo but other feels Herme's sorrow during the final days…
I love Zenos as a character. He is a total opposite of WoL and the clash of ideals in their meetings is always interesting to see <3
See, Rook, like you, I was more upset at Hermes on Meteion's behalf than anything else. As a creator, he was the biggest hypocrite and the one who ended up being the most irresponsible about his own creations.
And also like you, that cutscene in the Rift utterly destroyed me. Going back to Garlemald after that felt jarring tbh, and Zenos' appearance felt pointless: just more entitled whining on his part because you had better things to do than fight his dumb ass.
"Fare you well, my light of the future. Until we meet again."