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Well, "review" is putting it sternly. "Gush review" is probably more accurate 😂 Took a hell of a time to edit, so hope's it's a happy little listen! Thanks again for following us on this on-going journey ya'll!
It was fantastic seeing the journey you guys went through. I would love to see you guys do a reflection video. I remember when you guys first got into FFXIV, it was different from WoW and what not. I would love to hear how you guys feel now in contrast to then and what are you hopes and dreams for the future of the game and where it can go now that the team is planning the next decade for the game.
Ultima Thule as we entered are recreation that Meteion and her sisters created from memories of civilization they visited. So what the scions did when they "sacrifice" themselves, is basically the same as what we did at the end, using their memory, experiences, ideology to show hope to Meteion that responsible for creating those space. Like Estinien can use his experience with Vitra and the Dragonsong War to help Meteion of the dragon planet to overcome her despair.
what the scions do in ultima thule, and i think it is kinda explained is for each of the areas to defy hopelessness. thancred's "survive" made the nothingness a base and survivable place to start from, estinien explains to the dragons that there IS a place for dragons to live, y'shtola explains to the ea that knowledge is worthy to gain in spite of it showing you devastating things to come, g'raha tells the omicron that even though you might believe you have no purpose anymore there might be things you can do, the twins telling meteion that life goes on and on and it's basically all about getting up again and again.
it is not a coming to terms with themselves for the scions, it's an overcoming the odds of the environment by proving the hopelessness of each area's inhabitants wrong.
the body swap wasn't zenos' prank, it was fandaniels. and i felt like zenos was as disappointed as you that he didn't get to do anything to the scions. but fandaniel had other plans to begin with. zenos on the moon finds out that he was basically just a puppet where he believed he was on top of the situation. that imo is what triggers the subtle character development. he realizes that he isn't in the center of interest (probably never was) of your character. he realizes that stormblood is over and he's not the biggest threat or even a major thing to be worried about. he isn't even a garlean leader anymore, just a big strong bully.
the entire quest wasn't about zenos' evil, it was about fandaniel's
Nice job guys! Loved following you journey through 14, good luck with Necromancer, try not to go crazy chasing it
The reason Quintus is such a good character is not that he's the "old guard" or "set in his ways", but that he's the embodiment of why there can be no peaceful co-existence with fascism. Fascism, like Quintus so well shows, requires that its adherents see their culture, their race, their ideology, as the only one that can possibly be acceptable. He could only see Garleans as being superior to the other races and cultures of the world, and he would rather die that be equal or inferior.
Regarding your comments on Fourchenault and the twins, imo I think disowning them was a calculated move to influence the twins to return home. He couldn't outright tell them anything due to the spell the forum cast, so he gave them a mystery to solve. While they were doing that, he could finish the ark and they were right there for loading up. But like you guys said, no one knew how close the final days were, and the twins had too much of their grandfather in them to wait it out.
I think you actually need to be open minded to understand Quintus and the Garlean loyalists, not just "oPeN mInDeD". You don't have to agree (I personally don't), and I think very few rational, empathetic people would agree with them, but it's their whole nation, their way of life. And then the enemy comes marching in and tells them to fall in line and get forcibly (in their eyes) converted to the Eorzean way of life.
Their whole nation was built on the backs of them being slaves and mistreated, being forced into an extremely harsh environment, with the rest of the world persecuting them. They had to grow strong, and adopted the conquer or be conquered mantra, pushed by Emet-Selch I'd imagine, to survive. It became their way of life. Not everyone that lives under an autocratic rule has it bad. In fact, no country in the world has an actual democracy, we just have the same authoratarian systems with a token election to elect the same people with a different team color every four or five years. Jullus had nothing but good memories of his life before Zenos and Fandaniel happened. It's only because of real life propoganda that people in the west are taught how "bad" lives are in countries that don't follow our philosophy.
To have someone march in and try to impose their culture and form of government on you, no matter if it comes from supposed good intentions, is never going to be taken well. You only have to look at real world regime change wars to see that. It was exactly the same when Varis sat down and asked the Eorzeans to give up their way of life to live under Garlean rule. Everyone said "nope, we're not fucking doing that", but when the Eorzeans demand the same of the Garlean survivors, they're all expected to do it, mostly because they are in a position of vulnerability, and I absolutely agree with Quintus when he says the Eorzean leaders definitely have an ulterior motive, no matter how good their intentions are. Again, like in real life. "We're just trying to get rid of your bad leader, not trying to destabilize your country to plunder your oil reserves, no, not that at all".
Just a note the expansion is from the story finished, 6.1 is basically the prologue start for the new arc and expansion
Krille is kinda scary we have. NO idea what she did to poor estinien …
7.0 gonna wipe clean anything remain an issue ppl have with previous expansions. It’s a new story but base on things that still remain back in ARR throughout EW.
Pretty sure they already have a roadmap for 10.0 ending since the game run for 10 more years. Aside, eventhough the story is fictional but the scenarios are real btw. Things like that happen overtime. Discovery, learn the ugly truth, strife, fail and start again.
Maybe you should do the healer role quest. That's all I'm sayin'. lol
For more Fordola – do the Healer role quest. A lot more came in with the wider world through the role quests.
Since you guys have made it this far I can speak on this a little on Dynamis. What lore people, not myself, did was look back and see if Dynamis ever made an appearance outside of limit breaks. What they are trying to dig into right now is the job, "Dancer". If you level a dancer, you will notice that their quest line has to do with people who are in low spirits dancing to their deaths. The dancer then comes in and wards off some "spirit" that is effecting them without the use of Aether. So lore people are looking into the Dancer more as a potential candidate of the first Dynamis Job. A job first introduced in Shadowbringers.
I have too many thoughts but I'm just going to put one here: I wholeheartedly agree with Sophie, we need MORE HUGS!!!
Do healer role quest, since you can do it on sch 🙂
What I've always found interesting was the amount of respect that Zenos shows us after his return from his first death. He could have, at any point, just overtly attacked us in an attempt to force us into a fight. But we seem to be the only person whose opinion matters to him, so he settles for attempting to provoke us into voluntarily engaging him by "respecting" our priorities for the most part.
Also, with Emet, in hindsight from what we learn in Elpis, I'm fully convinced that when we pray focusing on Azem's stone is the catalyst that causes Emet's soul to reflexively respond and come to our aid as we were told he would never fail to do.
(sorry if someone has said it already) if you have a healer do the healer role quest Fordola plays a big part in that. I think FF14 as a whole is a great game, I'm torn mostly between SHB and EW for fave one to be honest. Love your take on the story so far its pretty similar to what me and hubby thought the entire time we played.
Fordola is in the Healer Role quest.
Gaius was not in the contingency because he didn't feel like he should and they give these reasons in-game.
First of all he's still accused and wanted for the murder of the Emperor.
He's also seen as a traitor to Garlemald for what he did at Werlyt.
Even though he WANTED to help, it would not be a good sign for him to show up at the front.
Endwalker zones were way better than any other zone imo
Jullus was too young to remember the racism and the fight for the mere right to survive, that is why he was more willing to listen. Quintus? He is old enough to remember that shit. He has every right not to trust us, and when he spoke to Alphi and Alisea, point me to where he said anything wrong:
'Oh! I am sure you came here with the best of intentions, but can you say the same for your Eorzean Collaborators? Can you promise us that if we put ourselves at your mercy that we won't be abused? What is the price for us to accept your help? Will it entail marking the third eye as a mark of shame? No thank you!'
It is the argument about a pessimist and a optimist, I would sooner trust the pessimist because at least he has history to back up his fears and worries. But Alphi saw the truth in what Quintus said, which is why he and Alisae are sticking around in Garlemald to help the efforts and make sure that Garleans aren't treated like trash.
There were two points that you hadn't covered which I'm interested in your oppinion on.
1) Zenos' "If I had a 'good' reason" speech. Finally an insight into his world view; not to look to others to find meaning because they will tell you what suits them, that you need to find that meaning for yourself.
2) Anima/Varis and the Tower of Babil. What was your thoughts on that?
At the end, Emet managed to do something he could never done at all before which is letting go of things he held close to his heart for 12,000 years. That was why he helped us like the old days with Azem, saying the present world wasn’t the world he loved, and also consoling us by betting us to see more of the world had offered as he did. He understood us so well like the time when we were Azem that he knew by hinting us the new places to explore would cheer us up quickly XD
Oh boy, thank you two for this, and for sharing your journey, thoughts and feelings with us
I'm only 25 minutes into the video, but you commented how you felt like you were discovering the truth on your own instead of having the game tell you. Recently, JoCat did a video on how he got into the game, and one of the things he gushed about was how much this game rewards you for paying attention. And how this game deftly, and often masterfully uses the concept of Chekov's gun to tell it's story.
Something to also have in your back pocket moving forward with the next stories, is that Yoshi P is also an apparent massive mystery novel fan. (From a Bellular video a couple months back). All these add up to the same thing, the game gives you the tools, whether it's in the background, in dialogue boxes, in imagery, or blatantly, if give you all the dots you need to reach the conclusion at the point in wants you to reach it. And then, not long after, the game will also tell you (or confirm) your conclusions for you. It's a very satisfying effect for me at least.
Ok, back to watching, but I wanted to comment before I forget, because in a 2 hour video, I am gonna have ALOT of thoughts, and you bet I am watching the WHOLE thing. I am beyond excited for this video.
One thing that I think you guys kind of gloss over is that the Garleans aren’t strictly like everyone else in the world. They’re basically (as far as we know) the only group of people who are quite the minority in the aspect of they can’t naturally use magic. So when they were just farmers and got kicked out of their homeland and forced into the northern wastes and no one stopped it from happening it’s easy to see why they’d not only resent people with magic, but not want any association with any other parts of the world. There was no Alisaie or Alphinaud coming to their aid and saying you can’t invade and take the land from these farmers and trying to help them get their homeland back. So in their eyes and in Quintius’ I can see why they stubbornly refuse help at that point. They were kicked from their homeland, they started to take back some of their homeland and surrounding areas, and they did so while using their own ingenuity and strengths after no one came to their aid and then all of a sudden once the world is finally coming to an end and their civilization is falling all around them these people suddenly care? It reminds me a lot to what happened to the people of Japan and Germany after WWII the people of those nations who weren’t even part of the conflict or weren’t even part of the problem suffered for centuries after the war ended because of the other nations who came to the rescue of the other nations and theirs. He even says that because of everything that they did their third eye would become a mark of shame…and while some people could look past it like the twins mentioned others couldn’t we already know a big part of the contingent didn’t even show up because they couldn’t let go of their animosity towards the Garleans. There’s no simple answer to his question it wasn’t just being “stuck in his ways” although that’s part of the problem but not the total big picture.
It's such big-brained-awesome writing how the lesson that you're taught in Sharlayan's class with the ink on paper comes into play at the end when ___ & ____ get their memories back. They make you think it's just explaining why the Forum can't talk about their purpose, and the magic behind the "Sharlayan NDA…" But in actuality, they secretly explained to you the 'science' behind how Hermes' memory device works so when you're exposed to it, you automatically accept how and why it could be a thing that exists. 10/10
Almost 90 minutes in, and the Ultima Thule section is a very interesting conversation in our FC. Some people didn't get hit as hard as others, and we are noticing a pattern, at least in our FC, and that is basically time played. It seemed that people who played for a longer time, the more powerful Ultima Thule hit them. Not that we didn't all go through the same journey, we all did, but for some reason, time, how long these characters have been alongside our real life lives, played a role. Not that this is a 100% correlation, but there is enough in our small corner of the world where, but enough to make us pay attention if there is some merit to it.
As for the disowned scene. I would say that the dad remembers the twins only during their ARR days when alphinaud and alisae were still naive about the world. The mother made it clear the father had no idea what the twins have been doing all these years. If you remember the twins used their family name a lot during arr and would of cried back home if they lost it. Easily the least forceful way to get the twins back and quick. The ARR twins.
For the inner meaning of the zone. Meteoin held the grief of multiple stars and had no answer on why living mattered from many forms of despair. Meaning many personal problems with no solutions. The scions were there to give solutions to their problems. That many tough questions of life can have answers. They aren't a perfect answer but is more then what they got during their thousands of years of life.
For all the goals Endwalker set out to accomplish, the whole scope of it, it's amazingly successful. As an overall experience it is probably my second favorite expansion. It has some stuff that is kind of head scratching the more you watch and see parts of it. The pacing is a little all over the place, but again that's because of how much ground they have to cover and how many threads they have to tie up.
It's a super impressive achievement, especially with them having to bring it all together while switching up the way they worked on it, moving so much to working from home and the way that affects communication between staff, etc.
The one thing I really like about that Zenos scene with Jullus, etc. that I didn't realize til later when I had seen it. Zenos, though twisted, understood the central premise of meaning and purpose more clearly than anyone else. That you need to decide that for yourself, etc. Was he a psychopath? Absolutely. But he laid out kind of the whole point of everything to Jullus in that scene.
Yoshida and Ishikawa had no rights to destroy us emotionally the way they have.
And we'll gladly let it happen again, because we're but tempered puppets…coming back again and again!
EW role quests. Melee DPS is Merlwyb, Healer is Raubahn/Fordola, Tank is Kan-E-Senna, Phys Ranged is Hien/Yugiri, and Caster is Artoirel/Aymeric