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Man. You have no idea. The best is still ahead of you.
Duties are defined.
In FF14 'duty' are defined, when you finish group content, like dungeons, trails, raids it says "duty complete".
It's called the "duty finder". But thats less of a thing later they made "trust" as there is a surprising amount of people who don't want to do group content, some people just don't want to do dungeons or trials with people, but in 'trust' have a great time.
This guy's question misses the point, from what I can understand. If he's complaining about having to do so much work to go from staying the game to caught up, then that's a valid point, but not what you were talking about. If you view having to do a lot of quests and instances story duties (including dungeons and trials) as busywork – as opposed to high points in the experience – then, maybe the game doesn't suit you…?
If this is referring to the duty roulette, then it's still wrong. I think two hours is the absolute maximum you could possibly spend in roulette (unless you get the absolute least fictional party members), and the progression gained from doing these at level 90 is fairly small as well as not mandatory to participate in or clear hardcore stuff.
There is no equivalent of a compulsory reputation grind, a torghast grind, cosmic flux, legendary farming, or great vault unlocking, all of which are treated as very important and compulsory by both players and the company.
The only other thing that comes to mind is the daily stuff like retainer ventures, gold saucer tickets, and gc handins… But those are all linked to side content. I only do those things on my main, and only when I can be bothered to remember and do it, and I'm not punished in the slightest for missing this.
Those duties are the MSQ quests, raids and dungeons right? All of us do that to progress MSQ. So it's related to the story? Maybe the topic sender just want to watch the MSQ unfold without participating in the dungeon and raids.
With the risk of being a know it all but warcraft was orginally a spin of game of Warhammer fantasy (hate to say it as it used to be warhammer was the fatasy battle and the scifi was named 40k)
as they didn't get the right warcraft became more based on dnd setting Dragonlance, Minotaur cultures, tinker gnomes and not in the least the time watching bronze dragons.
If one does not want to do any "duties" and rather just see the MSQ one should just watch a movie O.o
Dungeons are referred too as “Duties” in ff14. I’m assuming he meant those. However, that’s not really relevant to what you are talking about.
I mean 14 definitely has more tedious stuff atm. I'd rather literally spend 10 minutes in ZM doing the rep WQs. In 14 you have to grind out a bunch of bullshit dead content to get tomes.
This is far from being chores, final fantasy dungeons for msq are the easiests and most duties are soloable with the trust system as 6.1 now.
I think the person who asked the question is confusing MSQ requirements like the Crystal Tower with chores like in WoW. And as far as I know, Crystal Tower is the only required side quest in all of the MSQ so its really not the same thing.
Maybe the asker views the entire MSQ as a chore that he is forced to do to get to the "real game"?
Think for the most part, chores are used incorrectly here. Chores is something you do to keep up, like cleaning the house to keep it clean. WoW chores are dailies, torghast, rep, etc. to keep up with the end-game patch content. MSQ duty is a one time deal. I would relate MSQ duty more to the renown system
Chores specifically refers to your daily routine at endgame, NOT your leveling up routine. If you think msq is a chore buy a boost there are options available to you lol.
only thing i'd consider that are "chores" at the moment are daily duty runs and weekly achievements that aren't anywhere close to as massively required to WoW's endgame systems that you need to do to stay player power relevant. like you just get extra rewards for doing them xp and currency.
The only "chores" in FFXIV are capping your astronomy tomes every week and getting your weekly raid drops. None of which is required for anything unless you are banging your head on the hardest optional content. Everything else can be done at your own pace whenever you feel like doing it.
FFXIV got tons of things to do, just not forced. I didn't even use my levequest allowance till coffee biscuit. I do all dailies because I want to level all 19 alts. I can get BiS armor without savage. sadly I need to do savage for the BiS weapon. but I just buy ilvl 580 crafted weapon off market which also good enough and use astronomy armors.
It's way too many things you can do, you can do all of it, or just take it easy. next expansion still 1.5 years away, why the rush for all 90s
They certainly do and much more investing and fun than wow.
Got to level 15 and only part way through 🤣🤣
If someone is getting mad about doing specific duties…they are probably a cut scene skipper and trying hard to get to what they think is the real game (ie the endgame.)
At that point I would just tell them to suspend their sub and go play something else. What they are expecting is not to be found at the end of the road they walk.
Unlike the other game he probably came from, ff14 is a game that the content starts at 1 and continues on. It's a 10 layered cake, with each bit of content thrown in for people to enjoy and explore. That includes the 24 man raids and 8 man raids of previous expansions because the dev team uses everything.
There is not thing you HAVE to do, not even daily or weekly, some days i log and i chose to do aliance raids or dungeons, or i spend the day in the goldsaucer, or hunt A ranks or lately pvp cc or just don log at all if i don't want, there is nothing i gonna miss if i do or not do something, Before in Neverwinter i had to do the dailies weekly chores, don't know wow so i can't say.
In ffxiv i play when and what i want, that's why i pay for, and i don't need the feel to "i have to earn" the time i'll spend enjoying the parts i want to do, been a while and that the way i only accept a game now, i go to a game to enjoy and do whatever i want.
Mandatory dungeons with toxic player in WOW pls no in a trust system sure
Game progression, which the duties are required for, are not chores. Its just playing the game. Chores would be stuff like dailies, and even then only if you're required to do them to keep up with being able to even raid every week. There's very little in ffxiv that would be considered "chores". The main cgore would be capping your tomestones every week, and that's far from mandatory even to raid.
Also, "duties" are a term for any instanced content in ffxiv. Dungeons trials, solo duties, that sort of thibg.
Semantics aside I do feel like general questing during ARR feels like a chore in that it's just busywork put in to waste your time that adds no value to the story. Especially around the cheese dungeon content. 'We are about to be attacked but quick go get us some wine and cheese, make it snappy peasant!'
There are only 2 instances of mandatory content to progress the story in FFXIV… Crystal Tower and the roles quests during ShB. Outside of that, you don't need to do dailies or side content, but it's there if you want to do it
Tbh, as a long time DM, you certainly can take rule of cool one shots and turn them into a long form campaign. You just have to be a moderately better writer than someone who thinks the MCU is peak storytelling.
The person asking this question is either misusing or misunderstanding the term “chores”.
When people say FF has less chores, they mean it has less daily activities that are tied to core progression. Like the literal definition of a chore. Something you do routinely to maintain something. Laundry, dishes, etc.
This person seems to define chores as anything that they dislike doing that is required to progress. They seemingly dislike having to keep up with msq to do endgame. They see that as a chore, which is not the same kind of thing people are talking about when they say FF has less chores than WoW.
MSQ is not a daily task you have to regularly repeat every day. It’s a thing that you do for some time every few months when a new patch comes out.
Chores like the duties?
You mean the Highlights? 🙂