I did my 2k roulettes and got my mount. If people really need help.. I'll help but in 2021 if you literally can't watch a YouTube video about a fight before going in… seek help.
Yo! I just did a Duty that I hadn't done before, the sand dune place with the Chimera for the last boss. The group had 3 new sprouts, including myself, and a mentor. The mentor didn't say anything the whole dungeon and the sprout tank explained everything to us, including the Chimera boss.
I really wanted to give mentors a chance but two experiences kind of ruined it for me. The first was during a raid the tank (who I was in discord with) wasn’t being healed and after a wipe they asked “where’s the heals?” And the mentor asked “where’s the tanking” which caused them to go back and forth about it. They argue for amount f mins in chat and then the tank leaves which was a messed up and I told him so but they still continued to talk crap about him once he left and tried to pull me into it by saying “and in front of our poor 🌱” after that another tank joined and the same thing happened again. Finally I just made an excuse about going to work and left. The second time was in MSQ roulette. Main tank was mentor and went afk during battle, no warning or anything. Everyone in chat was like “what gives? Where are you” etc. After about 10 Minutes someone was like “maybe we need to kick them, maybe they’re busy” I said “are they penalized? Because if so we can just vote abandon” some one said no and after that they came in and saw the chat about kicking them and got heated we explained that we thought something had happened and that since it didn’t penalize her it was just a way to remove from the duty so we could continue. She flipped out and refused to tank but also refused to leave. At this point we’re about 50% through cut scene city and we’re just like “eff it” so the off tank main tanked and the dragoon off tanked and we cleared the rest of castrium while she just followed us around doing the bees knees dance.
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Interesting what is being said here about the Novice Network. Where i am playing, it's actually super helpful (albeit frequently distracted) and I feel completely comfortable asking any questions I need to there Maybe it's different on American servers?
I find it kind of weird how people are now and then outright hostile to me for being a mentor. I have the status because novice network is a fairly chill and friendly channel. Although I agree with the whole role being pretty damn pointless.
The last time I gave unsolicited advice was when I was tanking Sastasha for a friend who I got to play the Trial about a week ago. It was me telling the spout conjurer that he needed to heal me so I didn't die after I died twice on trash doing single pack pulls. Forgive me, but I wanted to do the dungeon and get it over with. Not sure what if I want to heal or tank going forward when I do the low level dungeons with my friend for his MSQ. Great content as always.
The real fix is to remove/move the mentor mount, I get that it's an incentive to get people to be mentors, but that doesn't mean they're gunna mentor lol
I don't type at all in chat because I still have 2 strikes left, got 1 in ARR and 1 in HW. Don't want to get banned for advise unless I find a way to sneak it in without raising any flags like, "When did get PLD goring blade again?" (a lvl 73 PLD that never used it…) and even if it was well received by the player I tried to talk to, the other 2 still make me think: "Man… wouldn't suprise me if I couldn't log in again the next day, what a stupid idea that was."
The Bald One sent me interesting vid, thought it was going to be jokey. instead it was a simple analysis of a pointless game system/mechanic. mad props
I'm still a sprout but have had to carry flowers and mentors through alliance raids, I see why this mentor system is flawed now, thank you Missshapen Chair
The worst part of ACT is when a player thinks they’re the best in an instance. And you look up at the meter and you can’t tell them otherwise because it’s against TOS, and they could report you.
Thank you for this. I started doing mentor roulettes ages ago to help and give advice (also because an actual random roulette/insta queue as DPS is awesome) and didn't give a shit about the mount, but I realized pretty quickly that people go ballistic when I actually try to do what I signed up for and give advice. You are 100% correct and ANY advice is generally seen as an attack, like you just spat on their mothers grave or something. I'm approaching 2k mentor roulettes and around the 500-700 mark I just stopped caring as much. It's easy to say "most mentors are just in it for the mount" and "if you dont want to help stop being a mentor" but teaching is a two way street and you can't help someone who doesn't want to be helped (which is probably 95%+ of players in my duties). I've had great interactions, amazing even, I met some of my best friends on this game because they were receptive to my advice in a random mentor roulette and we queued together afterwards for more stuff. I helped a brand new tank clear some random ARR dungeon and now he's off farming savage in a static and still thanks me for all the fundamentals and advice and such I helped him with over a year later. But the few good interactions doesn't matter because the VAST majority in almost 2000 runs has been overwhelmingly negative. Most people in this game do not want or care to be helped, so I can't blame other mentors for just sitting back and just doing roulettes for the mount and never giving advice. It's the worst when you play with someone who's queued with a friend and they both attack you for daring to say that thunder 4 shouldn't be used in single target and to use thunder 3 instead. If you do mentor roulettes you are basically signing up to play with the worst of the worst players and also potentially get shit on for having a crown (which while rare, it actually does happen and I've had to report more than a few people for it), especially if you have "join duties in progress" ticked. Also, the general negative attitude towards mentors being drooling idiots and to never listen to them doesn't help at all either. I think a lot of the mentor hate just stems from confirmation bias. When you see someone without a crown performing badly (which happens CONSTANTLY) you don't register it because they don't have a crown, but as soon as someone with a crown performs badly it's easy to say "well well well another mentor playing like a retard why am I not surprised" then proceed to generalize the entire mentor population. Because of the hate, more and more good mentors end up hiding their crowns out of shame and the bad ones keep them on which just creates a self fulfilling prophecy. One thing I disagree with though is the part about extremes. I actually don't think they're that bad because of the crazy item level scaling (and echo), you can cheese most mechanics because of it and fights end up being really easy if people are even slightly coordinated. If you explain the fight in a clear and concise way (and people actually listen) things usually go pretty well. Maximum item level makes DF extremes a joke, even the infamous Ramuh EX isn't hard if people actually do as they're told or watch a guide beforehand. It can be pretty annoying to corral a group of rowdy sprouts though and it's honestly a skill in itself but I really don't think it's as bad as people make it out to be. I definitely would prefer an extreme over another boring ass Matoya run where no one actually needs help. I don't blame other mentors for leaving though, but I don't have a problem with extremes personally. One more thing is that people who are "good" at the game are not necessarily good teachers. Having ultimate clears or something doesn't make you automatically good at explaining things. Some of the best players I've met have really sucked at teaching newer players, despite being excellent at playing. Anyways I think I'm rambling too much. I could go on forever about this but I think this is a good video and sheds a light on mentor roulette that I barely see people talk about. Personally I think mentor roulette should be renamed to "Fill Roulette" because that's what it actually is, in that queue you are just a filler and no one cares about what you have to say.
At a minimum, make the mentor crown tied to performance. We already have that for group content (titles), so what about a solo challenge. Just a very hard solo instance fight with templated stats. Make it hard enough so that only the top 5% will beat it. Image tower from wow in release week hard.
If you're in the top 5%, you're pretty qualified to give advise. Give them the crown when they've done it on all 3 roles.
The reason I wear my battle mentor is so that sprouts can feel comfortable asking me for guidance or assistance. I naturally like to help people and I am fairly patient. I have been doing this before getting the tag as well, felt like it would have helped to have it on. Also, I had THE ABSOLUTE WORSE experiences with mentors when I was a sprout. They were terribly impatient and instead of offering advice on improving anything, they threw insults at my ignorance (I was only playing for like 2 weeks). That, or they use it as an opportunity to spit out how good they are at the game. So I try my best to be the opposite of that and provide aid only when asked.
I had never understood why people wore mentor tags but didn't want to help or had the patience to help. I honestly in my innocence thought wearing a mentor tag meant you wanted to help others. But I swiftly found out the hard way that people use it as bragging rights which makes no sense since literally, anyone playing the game for a year can get this with little to no effort. I got this naturally from leveling all my battle classes and just playing the game daily. I wish there was a way to filter out those who genuinely want to mentor from people who want bragging rights or even just a trophy.
On a further side note, now that people seem to be hating players who wear a mentor tag, I feel so scared to even wear it. I don't like confrontations, I just want to help people, but it feels a bit different if people look at you and expect you to be a god and not a normal human being playing the game.
I thought mentors were good. During heavensward I was a new player and my FC's frequents were a group of 7 mentors which taught me everything and somehow knew everything even the name of the gnome hat from brayflox when I just said "this hat is so dumb"
9:30 my problem with this is it completely invalidates the experience of the game for new players. I can understand a mentor not wanting to run EX from the latest xpac or whatever, but when you get into a queue for Minstrel's Ballad: Ultima's Bane and the mentor immediately leaves during the opening cutscene, you don't deserve to be a mentor. Running this type of content unsynced in PF completely ruins the experience for sprouts, as some Lv80 machinist will just join and 3 shot the boss (my Garuda EX experience). My first time doing Thornmarch EX, our mentor started off by saying "Great" followed by "Hope y'all have read a guide" followed by "Friendly reminder not to use duty finder for extreme/savage content". No explanation of the mechanics whatsoever, and then left after 2 wipes. When a new sprout joined, the ensuing 40-minute struggle I endured with them was some of the most fun I've had in the game so far. The feeling of actually clearing the content was so satisfying. Compare this to the machinist 3-shotting my Garuda EX, or a Lv80 GB clearing my EX Titan in less than 30 seconds, and using PF, or unsynced in general, completely murders the experience. Stop telling sprouts to do that. You're ruining the game for them.
In general, I really have to disagree here (at least for the content I've experienced, which is up to the beginning of Stormblood). I don't think EXs are as hard as you make them out to be (they're challenging for new players, sure, but not something that is impossible to teach, as you state, unless FFXIV players are really that bad in comparison to other MMOs). I can understand Savage, but not Extreme. My second-time run through Ultima's Bane, which was my friend's first, our mentor immediately left during cutscene and I spent the time waiting for a new healer explaining the mechanics. It took 2 minutes of my time typing, and I barely knew what I was doing myself. I have 9 days playtime. When a new healer joined, we cleared it our first try. In total, if we didn't have to wait for a new healer, the encounter would've taken no more than 6 minutes (between fight + explanation). If you can't do that as a mentor, you shouldn't be a mentor.
You say that they "literally didn't sign up" to teach that type of content, but I think that's BS. Realistically, high-end content is the only content that needs to be taught, i.e.: would still be difficult after skimming a guide. I don't need a mentor to teach me how the mechanics of the final boss in Sohr Khai; if I wipe and nobody knows the mechs, I'll just look up a guide and easily clear it my next try. EX+ is the only content I can imagine struggling with while having already read a guide, which is the only content you need a mentor for.
In short, if a mentor leaves an encounter enough times, they shouldn't just get a DF penalty, they should straight up lose their mentorship. And it isn't something that should go away over time, like "oh I can leave one encounter a day, so I'm peacing out on this one." It's fucking pathetic that these entitled brats are just in it for a mount. Don't sign up to be a mentor unless you plan on mentoring, simple as that. I don't care if you're jaded and crusty because you're 1,000 encounters in and you cba to explain a boss. It's your fucking job.
What's weird about mentorship too is that the mentor roulette has actually specific content requirement. Like all primal EX, all the raid normals, dungeons etc etc. Also dont give it too easy for crafting mentors. The requirement is a joke but they are still on the novice network and those who got the crown easy but give bad combat advice and are toxic as hell and have like 1 job leveled at 80 when you do a player search and never did even an extreme in there lives.
When I see a DPS or healer mentor, hammer or sword, I always gauge a 50% they'll run on ahead and pull mobs to the tank or otherwise play really shitty like throwing a fit if the pull isn't big.
If it bugs them that much just tank yourself, in those experiences mentors tend to be better. And this is from a hguy who prefers big pulls as well
11:07 I literally had one of these in my mentor roulette yesterday. I backfilled healer on the first boss of Sunken Temple of Qarn, and we fought the boss and the tank didn't have their tank stance on. We were dying left and right and eventually wiped. When I kindly asked them to put it on and explained why it was necessary, I was met with immediate hostility. his dude went off. Eventually told me that he "would leave if I opened my mouth again" and eventually left, locking himself out of the duty finder, rightly so. Needless to say some of the things they said were abusive and they were promptly blacklisted and reported after the instance. Now this is true, that if you never give advice, you rarely find these types. That being said, I don't give unsolicited advice unless the problem is literally affecting everyone's experience. IE: The lack of stance mentioned above. I also don't think that this should deter people from giving advice or trying to help. If it comes from a place of genuinely trying to help, then good on you. Keep fighting the good fight.
In my opinion the biggest problem is that there is no thing like a ,,normal,, chat where can ask stuff or anything else^^ In other MMO‘s yeah ofc type your question in the normal chat and you get answers.. in FF14 you don‘t have one so outside of dungeons, Raids, Trials, Free Company etc you can‘t rly ask stuff
But i can understand it a little bit.. I‘m a sprout🙃 and going into Titan EX or something is so…. I write the few mechanics everytime the party wipes but literally no one cares and everyone does the same mistake everytime and only me and the heal is alive.. gg wipe So i can totally understand why no one wants to help and everyone only wants to ERP in Limsa
well performing tanks are favored commend material on JP servers.
That's Not How Bell Curves Work (unless you were making a joke about being perfectly average)
I did my 2k roulettes and got my mount. If people really need help.. I'll help but in 2021 if you literally can't watch a YouTube video about a fight before going in… seek help.
Yo! I just did a Duty that I hadn't done before, the sand dune place with the Chimera for the last boss. The group had 3 new sprouts, including myself, and a mentor. The mentor didn't say anything the whole dungeon and the sprout tank explained everything to us, including the Chimera boss.
"practice makes permanent" i think Vesemir said that in the Witcher 3
I really wanted to give mentors a chance but two experiences kind of ruined it for me. The first was during a raid the tank (who I was in discord with) wasn’t being healed and after a wipe they asked “where’s the heals?” And the mentor asked “where’s the tanking” which caused them to go back and forth about it. They argue for amount f mins in chat and then the tank leaves which was a messed up and I told him so but they still continued to talk crap about him once he left and tried to pull me into it by saying “and in front of our poor 🌱” after that another tank joined and the same thing happened again. Finally I just made an excuse about going to work and left. The second time was in MSQ roulette. Main tank was mentor and went afk during battle, no warning or anything. Everyone in chat was like “what gives? Where are you” etc. After about 10 Minutes someone was like “maybe we need to kick them, maybe they’re busy” I said “are they penalized? Because if so we can just vote abandon” some one said no and after that they came in and saw the chat about kicking them and got heated we explained that we thought something had happened and that since it didn’t penalize her it was just a way to remove from the duty so we could continue. She flipped out and refused to tank but also refused to leave. At this point we’re about 50% through cut scene city and we’re just like “eff it” so the off tank main tanked and the dragoon off tanked and we cleared the rest of castrium while she just followed us around doing the bees knees dance.
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Interesting what is being said here about the Novice Network.
Where i am playing, it's actually super helpful (albeit frequently distracted) and I feel completely comfortable asking any questions I need to there
Maybe it's different on American servers?
I find it kind of weird how people are now and then outright hostile to me for being a mentor. I have the status because novice network is a fairly chill and friendly channel. Although I agree with the whole role being pretty damn pointless.
The last time I gave unsolicited advice was when I was tanking Sastasha for a friend who I got to play the Trial about a week ago. It was me telling the spout conjurer that he needed to heal me so I didn't die after I died twice on trash doing single pack pulls. Forgive me, but I wanted to do the dungeon and get it over with. Not sure what if I want to heal or tank going forward when I do the low level dungeons with my friend for his MSQ. Great content as always.
Man, this makes me worried that I'm so close to getting that mentor crown already. I don't want to be seen as one of *them*.
2 things go in chat "o/" at the start of a dungeon and "gg" at the end if one person avoided having their brain leak out of their ears
The real fix is to remove/move the mentor mount, I get that it's an incentive to get people to be mentors, but that doesn't mean they're gunna mentor lol
I don't type at all in chat because I still have 2 strikes left, got 1 in ARR and 1 in HW.
Don't want to get banned for advise unless I find a way to sneak it in without raising any flags like, "When did get PLD goring blade again?" (a lvl 73 PLD that never used it…) and even if it was well received by the player I tried to talk to, the other 2 still make me think: "Man… wouldn't suprise me if I couldn't log in again the next day, what a stupid idea that was."
mentors are by and large poo poo who aren't good at the game and foster bad habits
The Bald One sent me
interesting vid, thought it was going to be jokey.
instead it was a simple analysis of a pointless game system/mechanic. mad props
I'm still a sprout but have had to carry flowers and mentors through alliance raids, I see why this mentor system is flawed now, thank you Missshapen Chair
The worst part of ACT is when a player thinks they’re the best in an instance. And you look up at the meter and you can’t tell them otherwise because it’s against TOS, and they could report you.
Thank you for this. I started doing mentor roulettes ages ago to help and give advice (also because an actual random roulette/insta queue as DPS is awesome) and didn't give a shit about the mount, but I realized pretty quickly that people go ballistic when I actually try to do what I signed up for and give advice. You are 100% correct and ANY advice is generally seen as an attack, like you just spat on their mothers grave or something. I'm approaching 2k mentor roulettes and around the 500-700 mark I just stopped caring as much. It's easy to say "most mentors are just in it for the mount" and "if you dont want to help stop being a mentor" but teaching is a two way street and you can't help someone who doesn't want to be helped (which is probably 95%+ of players in my duties).
I've had great interactions, amazing even, I met some of my best friends on this game because they were receptive to my advice in a random mentor roulette and we queued together afterwards for more stuff. I helped a brand new tank clear some random ARR dungeon and now he's off farming savage in a static and still thanks me for all the fundamentals and advice and such I helped him with over a year later. But the few good interactions doesn't matter because the VAST majority in almost 2000 runs has been overwhelmingly negative. Most people in this game do not want or care to be helped, so I can't blame other mentors for just sitting back and just doing roulettes for the mount and never giving advice. It's the worst when you play with someone who's queued with a friend and they both attack you for daring to say that thunder 4 shouldn't be used in single target and to use thunder 3 instead. If you do mentor roulettes you are basically signing up to play with the worst of the worst players and also potentially get shit on for having a crown (which while rare, it actually does happen and I've had to report more than a few people for it), especially if you have "join duties in progress" ticked.
Also, the general negative attitude towards mentors being drooling idiots and to never listen to them doesn't help at all either. I think a lot of the mentor hate just stems from confirmation bias. When you see someone without a crown performing badly (which happens CONSTANTLY) you don't register it because they don't have a crown, but as soon as someone with a crown performs badly it's easy to say "well well well another mentor playing like a retard why am I not surprised" then proceed to generalize the entire mentor population. Because of the hate, more and more good mentors end up hiding their crowns out of shame and the bad ones keep them on which just creates a self fulfilling prophecy.
One thing I disagree with though is the part about extremes. I actually don't think they're that bad because of the crazy item level scaling (and echo), you can cheese most mechanics because of it and fights end up being really easy if people are even slightly coordinated. If you explain the fight in a clear and concise way (and people actually listen) things usually go pretty well. Maximum item level makes DF extremes a joke, even the infamous Ramuh EX isn't hard if people actually do as they're told or watch a guide beforehand. It can be pretty annoying to corral a group of rowdy sprouts though and it's honestly a skill in itself but I really don't think it's as bad as people make it out to be. I definitely would prefer an extreme over another boring ass Matoya run where no one actually needs help. I don't blame other mentors for leaving though, but I don't have a problem with extremes personally.
One more thing is that people who are "good" at the game are not necessarily good teachers. Having ultimate clears or something doesn't make you automatically good at explaining things. Some of the best players I've met have really sucked at teaching newer players, despite being excellent at playing.
Anyways I think I'm rambling too much. I could go on forever about this but I think this is a good video and sheds a light on mentor roulette that I barely see people talk about. Personally I think mentor roulette should be renamed to "Fill Roulette" because that's what it actually is, in that queue you are just a filler and no one cares about what you have to say.
I don't advice anyone outside my actual team. Randos can rot in ignorance for all I care *clicks Leave party*
Meld spell speed on red mage. Sounds solid
Warframe has these "mentor" people, the wiki is better.
Is this a uniquely American thing? I rarely run into these issues in European servers. I even give out unwarranted advice.
At a minimum, make the mentor crown tied to performance. We already have that for group content (titles), so what about a solo challenge. Just a very hard solo instance fight with templated stats. Make it hard enough so that only the top 5% will beat it. Image tower from wow in release week hard.
If you're in the top 5%, you're pretty qualified to give advise. Give them the crown when they've done it on all 3 roles.
The reason I wear my battle mentor is so that sprouts can feel comfortable asking me for guidance or assistance. I naturally like to help people and I am fairly patient. I have been doing this before getting the tag as well, felt like it would have helped to have it on. Also, I had THE ABSOLUTE WORSE experiences with mentors when I was a sprout. They were terribly impatient and instead of offering advice on improving anything, they threw insults at my ignorance (I was only playing for like 2 weeks). That, or they use it as an opportunity to spit out how good they are at the game. So I try my best to be the opposite of that and provide aid only when asked.
I had never understood why people wore mentor tags but didn't want to help or had the patience to help. I honestly in my innocence thought wearing a mentor tag meant you wanted to help others. But I swiftly found out the hard way that people use it as bragging rights which makes no sense since literally, anyone playing the game for a year can get this with little to no effort. I got this naturally from leveling all my battle classes and just playing the game daily.
I wish there was a way to filter out those who genuinely want to mentor from people who want bragging rights or even just a trophy.
On a further side note, now that people seem to be hating players who wear a mentor tag, I feel so scared to even wear it. I don't like confrontations, I just want to help people, but it feels a bit different if people look at you and expect you to be a god and not a normal human being playing the game.
Ohh this is why i was getting bullied for bein a mentor a month or so ago kekw
I thought mentors were good. During heavensward I was a new player and my FC's frequents were a group of 7 mentors which taught me everything and somehow knew everything even the name of the gnome hat from brayflox when I just said "this hat is so dumb"
9:30 my problem with this is it completely invalidates the experience of the game for new players. I can understand a mentor not wanting to run EX from the latest xpac or whatever, but when you get into a queue for Minstrel's Ballad: Ultima's Bane and the mentor immediately leaves during the opening cutscene, you don't deserve to be a mentor. Running this type of content unsynced in PF completely ruins the experience for sprouts, as some Lv80 machinist will just join and 3 shot the boss (my Garuda EX experience). My first time doing Thornmarch EX, our mentor started off by saying "Great" followed by "Hope y'all have read a guide" followed by "Friendly reminder not to use duty finder for extreme/savage content". No explanation of the mechanics whatsoever, and then left after 2 wipes. When a new sprout joined, the ensuing 40-minute struggle I endured with them was some of the most fun I've had in the game so far. The feeling of actually clearing the content was so satisfying. Compare this to the machinist 3-shotting my Garuda EX, or a Lv80 GB clearing my EX Titan in less than 30 seconds, and using PF, or unsynced in general, completely murders the experience. Stop telling sprouts to do that. You're ruining the game for them.
In general, I really have to disagree here (at least for the content I've experienced, which is up to the beginning of Stormblood). I don't think EXs are as hard as you make them out to be (they're challenging for new players, sure, but not something that is impossible to teach, as you state, unless FFXIV players are really that bad in comparison to other MMOs). I can understand Savage, but not Extreme. My second-time run through Ultima's Bane, which was my friend's first, our mentor immediately left during cutscene and I spent the time waiting for a new healer explaining the mechanics. It took 2 minutes of my time typing, and I barely knew what I was doing myself. I have 9 days playtime. When a new healer joined, we cleared it our first try. In total, if we didn't have to wait for a new healer, the encounter would've taken no more than 6 minutes (between fight + explanation). If you can't do that as a mentor, you shouldn't be a mentor.
You say that they "literally didn't sign up" to teach that type of content, but I think that's BS. Realistically, high-end content is the only content that needs to be taught, i.e.: would still be difficult after skimming a guide. I don't need a mentor to teach me how the mechanics of the final boss in Sohr Khai; if I wipe and nobody knows the mechs, I'll just look up a guide and easily clear it my next try. EX+ is the only content I can imagine struggling with while having already read a guide, which is the only content you need a mentor for.
In short, if a mentor leaves an encounter enough times, they shouldn't just get a DF penalty, they should straight up lose their mentorship. And it isn't something that should go away over time, like "oh I can leave one encounter a day, so I'm peacing out on this one." It's fucking pathetic that these entitled brats are just in it for a mount. Don't sign up to be a mentor unless you plan on mentoring, simple as that. I don't care if you're jaded and crusty because you're 1,000 encounters in and you cba to explain a boss. It's your fucking job.
What's weird about mentorship too is that the mentor roulette has actually specific content requirement. Like all primal EX, all the raid normals, dungeons etc etc. Also dont give it too easy for crafting mentors. The requirement is a joke but they are still on the novice network and those who got the crown easy but give bad combat advice and are toxic as hell and have like 1 job leveled at 80 when you do a player search and never did even an extreme in there lives.
When I see a DPS or healer mentor, hammer or sword, I always gauge a 50% they'll run on ahead and pull mobs to the tank or otherwise play really shitty like throwing a fit if the pull isn't big.
If it bugs them that much just tank yourself, in those experiences mentors tend to be better. And this is from a hguy who prefers big pulls as well
Finally got 3600 sps on my redmage!
11:07 I literally had one of these in my mentor roulette yesterday. I backfilled healer on the first boss of Sunken Temple of Qarn, and we fought the boss and the tank didn't have their tank stance on. We were dying left and right and eventually wiped. When I kindly asked them to put it on and explained why it was necessary, I was met with immediate hostility. his dude went off. Eventually told me that he "would leave if I opened my mouth again" and eventually left, locking himself out of the duty finder, rightly so. Needless to say some of the things they said were abusive and they were promptly blacklisted and reported after the instance.
Now this is true, that if you never give advice, you rarely find these types. That being said, I don't give unsolicited advice unless the problem is literally affecting everyone's experience. IE: The lack of stance mentioned above.
I also don't think that this should deter people from giving advice or trying to help. If it comes from a place of genuinely trying to help, then good on you. Keep fighting the good fight.
In my opinion the biggest problem is that there is no thing like a ,,normal,, chat where can ask stuff or anything else^^
In other MMO‘s yeah ofc type your question in the normal chat and you get answers.. in FF14 you don‘t have one so outside of dungeons, Raids, Trials, Free Company etc you can‘t rly ask stuff
But i can understand it a little bit..
I‘m a sprout🙃 and going into Titan EX or something is so….
I write the few mechanics everytime the party wipes but literally no one cares and everyone does the same mistake everytime and only me and the heal is alive.. gg wipe
So i can totally understand why no one wants to help and everyone only wants to ERP in Limsa
Point 3 is quite funny, I was mentor for years and had the Novice network disabled.
I just wanted the two seater pegasus.
Had several negative experiences with mentors, I honestly try to interact with em as less as possible!