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PF are great places to practice mechanics. In all seriousness though, raiding in FF isn't complex. 💃
I’ve cleared p5s-p7s this tier but p8s is a dumpster fire and clearing it in PF seems almost impossible at this point. My clears of the first 3 fights were fairly quick. I just watched guides and then jumped into PF’s that were far into the fights. I learn very quickly so I don’t generally hold people back in PF most times but P8S is becoming a nuisance to clear and I’m losing the will to live where I just don’t wanna go into the fight anymore
i want that simulator, whats the name of it?
The current savage tier doesn't interest me in terms of glam and getting better gear doesn't mean much outside of said savage tier.
Is PF bad?
Ye, kinda.
FOMO's a thing, and not by the game's design. Unless you beg on your knees, you will only see meme parties, BLU parties, or current savage/EX triañ parties.
No one wants to do old content.
No one wants to farm old savages.
Just keep doing current tiers, gotta get that glam to look cool to internet strangers who'll forget you in a week!
PF is for those willing to work with randos without knowing the hell that it is. Or try desperately to suck up to [insert content creator here] who will most likely never notice them.
I always have to pf since my job literally keeps me from being able to play for months at a time due to travel, so i won't put a static thru that
"I was a tiny creator" hmmm . But Zepla, are you not still a tiny creator ? 😛
Its strange going from JP to NA
PF is exactly the same, the Memes are just Memes. The strats are basically the same, and the player skill level is the same.
You get good people and bad people, There are more NA players so i guess there are more bad players.
I like to PF reclears in prog groups, in the hopes that they get a clear and next week, they go for reclears.
The only downside to this raid system is that once i have recleared… I cant jump into PF and help other people without screwing them out of loot.
CBA to play with people that are deadweight and still somehow manage to flame you, people that straight up just lie and claim seeing X mechanic of a fight and cant do simple stuff, the feeling of having to start from zero each new pf i join is just too much the only way i managed to clear Storm's Crown EX was by convincing a clear group to let me join since at that point i literally reached enrage 5 times, also for some reason people in PF have WAAAY too much ego
I've had a lot of bad experiences in PF to point where I gave up with it completely, I'm sure there's actually nice players on there, but unfortunately I found more toxic than nice.
I have many friends who have shared the same experience.
But I know some statics can be like that, you know.. The annoying one who shits on everyone but is actually the one messing up.
we had someone come in to our pf group and after one wipe they left. reformed with another new person from PF and cleared in the very next pull.
I have given up on raiding. I play to have fun and I have discovered that people are generally @$$holes. I am not going to pay money to be abused and suffer through the drama of someone who causes the wipe to always blame someone else.
Yeah, I'd been trying to do crit dungeons through PF, and honestly would rather just wait until my friends want to do it with me who I can communicate better.
i quit the game for now because of PF. Waiting a hour to fill the 8th member when a static member missed the day sucked :/
PF is for the hunt and finding extreme raid progress cafes
My poor experience with PF stems from an alarmingly high percentage of players that probably shouldn’t be doing savage. Almost like they’re entitled to a clear instead being honest with themselves about their own skill level
Don't have a static. Cleared 5,6,7S which is my first savage clears via pf.
It was a lot of frustration at points due to parties continuously disbanding at wipes and waiting for spots to fill for a long time.
I've managed to get to Harvest in P7S just from progging through the fights in PF. Prog takes a LOT longer in PF as its new people every time who have different experience levels with the fight. Cachexia 1 especially in P6S, it became very obvious who knew what they were doing and who didn't. I raided on average about 6-8 hours a week (when I got off work) and its taken me about 5-6 weeks to get where I am now.
Most of the groups I've been in have been great. The only weird one I've been in was a P7S group where the WHM was doting over their boyfriend (WAR). She would constantly brag about how good he was, and if "he liked a strat we should do it. He's really good at the game". The boyfriend clearly raided on her character as she was BIS except for the weapon, but she kept dying to simple mechanics through out the fight.
Started doing savage PF for the first time after my static has been letting me down, EVERYTHING Zepla said was so on point its scary.
I like statics because I know that I WILL be progging at certain times. Like, I dont have an open schedule, so if I have 3 hours to raid, I dont want to sit in PF for 10-60 mins of that time waiting for a PF to fill. I know that we are scheduled to meet at a time, and we should be starting no more than 5-10 mins later than that time.
the more honest you are about your level of progression the better an experience you will have in pf , if you join a clear with no knowledge and it fails that is your fault. a progression or learning party is the better option.
My first time back to savage since Alexander and I ended up doing pf and raiding with a static. I found pf better for my tastes since I learned mechanics quicker, but generally reclears are much more calming in a static.
While I have never tried savage tier raiding in PF, but I use it for extremes or farming stuff, and I have never had an issue. Every once in a while, you will run into one or two people who cause drama or are toxic, but it has never been enough to ruin the fun. Honestly my friends and I find it funny and discuss it in Discord lol usually. PF really isn't that bad in that aspect, but as I said, I can't speak on savage tier raiding.
In my experience, the first weeks of PF are fine, and then it gets worse and worse with every week as the decent players move on and only the griefers and those late to the party leave behind. This tier I cleared P5S-P7S in the first two weeks on weekends and each kill took about 1 hour from beginning party to kill. Last tier I got stuck for 3 months on P3S because I was lazy after week 3 and switched from EU to NA for friends — and there I learned to leave groups or outright disband and blacklist players who can't clear the first mechanics when you're at enrage. Classic adds meme on P3S for example. It's so much more enjoyable if you just remove griefers or yourself from the group. Though I admit, people would already call the first toxic. Now I'm in a static and missing that option because there is totally one person who is holding us back and no one wants to say anything. That's the drawback from statics; you can totally be held back by 1 or 2 people and either you leave or deal with it.
My usual experience on pf revolves around clearing 3 floors and trying the last floor for a couple of weeks, giving up, moving on. Taking a break from the game right now after 3 weeks of no progress on pf on P8S. Even as a MMO player, I have other games I'd like to play and pf raiding takes way too much time.
If you consider yourself a higher than average learner/player. Then ,100% PF has improved over the years. However, outside of early weeks, the player skill tends to go down quite a bit, making it really difficult to PF. Not even that, it also comes down to PF strats in general. PF, doesn’t always pick the best strats for given encounters, making clearing with randoms even more difficult.
It’s a grind and it’s crappy at times, because not only are you proging the fight, but you are also proging the given group(s) of the session as well. People are really bad at adjusting and doing things differently when they join a group, and even leave when they don’t get their desired position.
It’s rough. Not only that, but to us non-gifted players, pf has little tolerance for slight mistakes at times as well. It’s a rarity for a prog party to make it far into a session, only to get to practice the mechanic you actually want to practice, because they are actually 2-3 behind the advertised pf. Most of the time people lose patience, especially when the person who takes a bit longer to get it, happens to be you. (Hey, it happens)
Tl;dr – if you can’t make a schedule and join a static, best bet is to PF early and not past week 4 – 8 it starts to get really rough.
Progging uwu on primal is abysmal. I’ve had better luck joining 7/8 static on pf than with complete randoms wiping on titan memes. Anni prog? Jk we’re here for the nail memes. Hopefully I can find a static because I’m not sure I have the energy for pf
I think PF is fine, it'll never be as good as a static, but it is a workable solution for players with inconsistent schedules.
Tbh as someone who is MUCH more comfortable with callouts, I could not do most savage content with PF. I salute those who can and do so regularly while I hide with my Static lol.